Will PHX Always Be Senior?
#21
Line Holder
Joined APC: Oct 2013
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The hard thing to estimate is the long term seniority as many PHX FOs took CA upgrades in LAX and will be coming back to PHX as the current PHX CAs retire. I would guess that upgrading in PHX for new guys will take years longer then most other bases.
#25
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Mar 2014
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When I looked at it a few months ago it was like three destinations, all Hawaii, all red eyes. Lineholders were the bottom guys.
#26
Meh...
Joined APC: Jan 2012
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#27
I think it will be senior for quite a while. It looks like the base size has stabilized. I imagine once the mechanics get their contract they will make it a 737 base, since there's a lot of flying in and out of there. I've been here 5 years and would only be about 70% on the FO list, I'd be about 35% at LAX. The top 162 (of 232) can hold Captain in LAX, so there are a lot of guys not willing to commute to upgrade. PHX does have quite a few retirements coming up, so that will help. 42% of the CAs are 60 or over. 55% of the FOs are 50 or over. I think it will be senior for the next 5-10 years unless they make it a 737 base and increase the base size, then it might go junior on the 737. There are a lot of guys there that swear they'll never fly that plane again.
How does the future movement compare to other bases? 1/2 of the CA’s retiring in 5 years? 1/2 of the FO’s retiring in 10-12 years? Seems pretty good to me less some CA’s coming back from LAX.
#28
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Joined APC: Mar 2008
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3/5/7 year retirement percentages
PHL 43/64/81
CLT 33/55/73
DFW 25/44/65
PHX 23/41/59
ORD 22/40/61
LAX 21/39/56
#30
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Just flew with a guy in Miami who commutes from PHX. Can't hold it as a CA. Previous am West guy. Crazy how senior that seat is there
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