Battlinbear

Friend was offered a interview and accepted the job outside of the flow and no military time. 16 LORS fwiw

AFTrainerGuy

The take rate on the bonus for staying in would say otherwise. Combine that with the programs being offered for rotor pilots to enter 121 and the only thing that’s gonna stop the exodus is a recession and hiring stopping.

Taco280AI

Wish I knew. Flows and military jet pilots make up nearly 90% of their new hires. Working on my Master's, have continuing volunteer work, former military (not jet). No LORs, don't know any AA pilots.

Good luck

Cicada

Somewhere, someone you know, knows someone who does. You are going to have to get creative. Do you work for a regional? Most regional pilots run into lots of other airline pilots. That's how the networking comes in.

Bluetaildragger

While that is definitely a trend, there's much more to the story than that. Just having family member at AA isn't the end of the story, it involves a ton of networking and prep that many at the regionals write off as nepotism. Meanwhile, they devote zero time to their apps and networking while wondering why they haven't gotten a call. Some with parents at AA have even received the call and got turned down for one reason or another. Others never get the call at all.

NovemberBravo

Networking aka mom and dad make their FOs write their kid letters of rec. Still nepotism no matter how you want to cut it.

In AAs defense they said if you want to work here go to a wholly owned.

PRS Guitars

It’s not nepotism that limits the OTS hiring of civilians. It’s the flow. I don’t like it either, but Im not king. If I were, Id $h!t can the flow and hire 1/3 mil, 1/3 civ 121, and 1/3 civ 91/135. It’s not easy for line pilot parents to get their kid (or anyone they recommend) hired here. I wish it were, I wish they took pilot recommendations more seriously. It’s mostly HR’s game now.

AAfng

I have no heartburn with mom and dad getting JR a job. In my class there were a three guys I went "wow, they are really lucky to be here". One was a straight Part 135 guy, the other two were military but with barely 2K total hours. All three had either a dad or uncle advocating for them. I think it is cool but you cant use the Part 135 guy as an example of how it is possible because of the dad factor. Dont look at the 1900 hour military guy and say "oh I have enough time" unless you have an uncle as a CP.

Once again, I hope to get my kid on at low time also.

There is NO shortage of military guys to fill the off the street slots. On a side note. I knew NO ONE at American and had only 200hrs of jet time (none military) when hired. I am retired military with 8K hours. I was surprised I got called, I had kinda given up on AA ever calling and my application was a little out of date. Keep trying.

ps2sunvalley

Well I think the Air Force makes around 400 pilots a year, so the pool for all airlines should be around that, plus how many ever USN, USMC, and USA have which probably doubles that number. Just spitball here, no firm numbers.


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Beech Dude

[QUOTE=ps2sunvalley;2872268]Well I think the Air Force makes around 400 pilots a year, so the pool for all airlines should be around that, plus how many ever USN, USMC, and USA have which probably doubles that number. Just spitball here, no firm numbers.

Its closer to 800-900/year. 15 classes a year, avg about 20 per class, across 3 bases. Rumor mill says they want to up classes to 30-35 studs.