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Old 08-19-2019 | 07:07 PM
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Had 2 in my class this year who had parents who fly or flew for AA. One was from Skywest, the other from Spirit.
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Old 08-19-2019 | 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by NovemberBravo
Exactly that’s just the game. I understand and would do the same. Just don’t tell me you magically got on because of luck and your amazing networking skills.
Anyone who doesn’t acknowledge the fact that having a family member in the company helped them get where they are needs a reality check.

My point was simply that it isn’t a given, as illustrated by the fact that many who don’t put in the effort don’t get the call. Or worse, get the call and don’t get invited to class.
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Old 08-19-2019 | 10:38 PM
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I am the first to admit I was hired at LUS because no one else really wanted to go there. My competition was not CKA, or space cadets, or Air Force One pilots. It was Joe sitting next to me in the crew room wanting to GTFO of the RJ rat race. Here's one for "team member average Joe".
Worked out pretty well, huh?
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Old 08-19-2019 | 11:21 PM
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Originally Posted by bababouey
This is incredibly hard to believe and goes against everyone I’ve met in the interview department, and my own experience. We don’t do much well, but we have the best interview process, don’t try to trash that.


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How is sharing one pilots experience trashing the interview process? The story is true. This was about 3 years ago now...
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Old 08-20-2019 | 03:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Name User
I am the first to admit I was hired at LUS because no one else really wanted to go there. My competition was not CKA, or space cadets, or Air Force One pilots. It was Joe sitting next to me in the crew room wanting to GTFO of the RJ rat race. Here's one for "team member average Joe".


I always lol’ed @ the guys flying RJs for airways who didn’t apply there. Like flying a 50 seat contract jet was a better idea than going to airways
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Old 08-20-2019 | 04:24 AM
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Originally Posted by chrisreedrules
How is sharing one pilots experience trashing the interview process? The story is true. This was about 3 years ago now...


Because it’s an extreme outlier if true, which I don’t believe it is, what’s your motivation for posting this? I was hired from a wholly owned and the interviewers said “we’re so glad we got you before Delta did,” I was in class 4 weeks later.


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Old 08-20-2019 | 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by bababouey
Because it’s an extreme outlier if true, which I don’t believe it is, what’s your motivation for posting this? I was hired from a wholly owned and the interviewers said “we’re so glad we got you before Delta did,” I was in class 4 weeks later.


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maybe you are the outlier?
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Old 08-20-2019 | 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by FlyyGuyy
It really wasn't bad. Frankly I hit the jackpot.
5 and a half years. Just wanted to share my experience.
Upset my parents more than anything. When they spoke to HR they were essentially told that they (hr) didn't care.

My experience in Aviation has always been to expect the worst case scenario and hope for the best. It's worked so far nothing has surprised me in a negative way so far.
Pretty sure that is not the right attitude for APC. /S
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Old 08-20-2019 | 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by bababouey
Because it’s an extreme outlier if true, which I don’t believe it is, what’s your motivation for posting this? I was hired from a wholly owned and the interviewers said “we’re so glad we got you before Delta did,” I was in class 4 weeks later.


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Good for you.

I have a friend who's a captain at Skywest. He has about 6 LOR's from AA pilots. He's updated his apps after every trip for years. He's a former electrical engineer who worked for Boeing for a few years. He's been to the Job Fairs, including OBAP last month.

Guess what? He got a call from FedEx for an interview. He's ecstatic. I wrote a nice email to Recruitment the following week imploring them to call him for an interview, or risk losing him to FedEx.

Crickets. As I expected.

As someone else said here, no one in Recruitment cares about any pilot heading to any of our competitors.

As an aside, I have a very good friend who's a narrowbody captain here. His son flew for Envoy for maybe two years or so. Maybe less. He was called for an interview and hired this Spring. I'm super happy for him, but it just reinforces the fact that having a parent who's a captain here at AA carries HUGE weight.
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Old 08-20-2019 | 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by 450knotOffice
Good for you.

I have a friend who's a captain at Skywest. He has about 6 LOR's from AA pilots. He's updated his apps after every trip for years. He's a former electrical engineer who worked for Boeing for a few years. He's been to the Job Fairs, including OBAP last month.

Guess what? He got a call from FedEx for an interview. He's ecstatic. I wrote a nice email to Recruitment the following week imploring them to call him for an interview, or risk losing him to FedEx.

Crickets. As I expected.

As someone else said here, no one in Recruitment cares about any pilot heading to any of our competitors.

As an aside, I have a very good friend who's a narrowbody captain here. His son flew for Envoy for maybe two years or so. Maybe less. He was called for an interview and hired this Spring. I'm super happy for him, but it just reinforces the fact that having a parent who's a captain here at AA carries HUGE weight.
Another point of data for you. A friend who was also a SkyWest Capt doing C17 reserves; formerly an AA intern. He didn’t get called for an interview until after he finished FedEx IOE in 2016.

Two FOs at SkyWest, neither had any PIC, but both had parents at AA, left SkyWest in 2013.

So not even an internship trumps parental pull!
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