Originally Posted by Web265

This is truly getting comical, I’ve already had more supportive messages off line/in person/pm from more AA / WO pilots than from the few that are crying foul on these forums. We are arguing with a vocal minority.



Although it can be entertaining, it’s not really doing anything for or against the the attempt at enforcing reciprocity.

Originally Posted by GHOST

I had a Republic pilot attempt to hand me some literature the other day in hopes to educate our pilot group about their jumpseat woes. I asked my FO if he was interested in reading it before I tossed it in the trash. The FO responded, "We don't take orders from third party contractors." To this day, I'm not sure what the piece of paper said, and I don't care. Republic has no clout, and the attitude I see on these forums further solidifies my belief that they think they matter - they don't, and are replaceable. You guys picked the wrong hill to die on!

Originally Posted by GHOST

I had a Republic pilot attempt to hand me some literature the other day in hopes to educate our pilot group about their jumpseat woes. I asked my FO if he was interested in reading it before I tossed it in the trash. The FO responded, "We don't take orders from third party contractors." To this day, I'm not sure what the piece of paper said, and I don't care. Republic has no clout, and the attitude I see on these forums further solidifies my belief that they think they matter - they don't, and are replaceable. You guys picked the wrong hill to die on!

Originally Posted by dbrault17

I'm not sure if everyone is really reading the email guidance right from the Teamsters and I believe its causing alot of misunderstanding. The jumpseat priority chart in the email has no reference to jumpseat codes. D2, D6 is all irrelevant. The priority table is as follows....

Nope. I was wrong. Properly listed D6 first. Then American D1/2FDJ ect. I guess I was the one reading it wrong.

1. RAH pilot (by hire date)
2. RAH dispatcher (by hire date)
3. RAH Managment employees (authorized)
4. RAH authorized employees
5. Active OAL Part 121/135 pilot by time of check in at departure gate.
6. Active OAL Part 121/135 dispatcher by time of check in at departure gate.
7. Industry Rep
8. ATC

American and wholly owned pilots will fall in at number 5 along with other OAL pilots from Delta, United, Southwest, Kalitta, UPS, etc.

There is no mention of using any type of "American Airlines" specific priority codes to list for the jump. It also states that it 'may' be up to captain to verify the check-in times for OAL pilots wanting a jumpseat absent of a RAH jumpseater to maintain the FOM priority.

So on its face, the way I understand it, it appears it doesnt matter if you listed as a D2 or D6. It will only matter of your check in time at the departure gate when trying to jump on a RAH flight.

Originally Posted by AAfng

My army buddy at rha said it happens all the time, who’s stopping them or checking he said....answer “no one”.

Originally Posted by mainlineAF

I don’t even know wtf d6 is. If it’s an AA flight operated by republic there’s no chance AA guys are going to do some stupid listing bc republic wants us to.

We shall see how this ends.

Originally Posted by GHOST

I had a Republic pilot attempt to hand me some literature the other day in hopes to educate our pilot group about their jumpseat woes. I asked my FO if he was interested in reading it before I tossed it in the trash. The FO responded, "We don't take orders from third party contractors." To this day, I'm not sure what the piece of paper said, and I don't care. Republic has no clout, and the attitude I see on these forums further solidifies my belief that they think they matter - they don't, and are replaceable. You guys picked the wrong hill to die on!

Originally Posted by ICUROOK

And if anybody was wondering why the only way to fix this agreement was for Republic to fix the inequality on their side and not do a cheesy information campaign, the above is it. This guy just validated Republic's actions thus far.

Originally Posted by DOGIII

So you honestly thought that this approach you all have taken was going to lead to AA and WO pilots being supportive of your cause? I don't see how anyone thought this was going to be a good idea. The only thing you've guaranteed so far is the scorn of 4 pilot groups. Not to mention the fact that most here don't even believe that what you are asking for is even truly reciprocal. So while some here may have been sympathetic to some of your concerns, they are becoming more and more scarce as you all keep going with this. I think you need to approach this differently. But that's just me.

Originally Posted by ICUROOK

I was specifically mentioning "letter writing campaign". The other poster proved this is a bad idea, validating Republic's approach. And don't act like this has been sprung on you, RAH has been trying to get this fixed for years with both AA and the Union.