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AFTrainerGuy 11-29-2019 11:09 AM


Originally Posted by R57 relay (Post 2931473)
Have you noticed how many odd balls there are around here that were hired at American, US Air, US Airways, America West, Eastern, Trump, Reno, TWA, Empire...did I leave anyone out? (Piedmont didn't hire any odd balls :D ).

There will always be some that slip through. If they cannot fly for AA, they should not be flying for a WO. And for those that slip through, we need to make sure we catch it during initial training and probation.

Do other folks in other industries trash their peers as much as pilots do?

No kidding... I don’t get why so many trash their peers in this profession. This thread is a joke. No matter how you got here, this profession tends to weed out almost all of the weak performers well before you ever get to your “final job”. At this stage we’re all just about the exact same. And as for weirdos, I’m sure there everywhere in every profession, it’s just that it’s harder to hide when your sitting 2 feet away from each other for 4 long days with not much else to do but have long conversations about just about everything and anything.

Excargodog 11-29-2019 11:47 AM


Originally Posted by AFTrainerGuy (Post 2931518)
No kidding... I don’t get why so many trash their peers in this profession. This thread is a joke.

:confused:

:D

6ix9ineYearFlow 01-10-2020 07:02 AM

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Varsity 01-10-2020 09:00 AM


Originally Posted by TransWorld (Post 2931383)
Unless another Carl Icahn (TWA) takes over, I don’t see anything like that happening.

You mean like Doug Parker? He's taken every airline he ever ran through bankruptcy.

flyinawa 01-10-2020 06:28 PM


Originally Posted by Varsity (Post 2954489)
You mean like Doug Parker? He's taken every airline he ever ran through bankruptcy.

I’m no fanboy, but you’re way off base...unless you’re implying he’s gotten every airline he’s ever ran OUT of bankruptcy.

Battlinbear 01-10-2020 11:36 PM


Originally Posted by Varsity (Post 2954489)
You mean like Doug Parker? He's taken every airline he ever ran through bankruptcy.


DP and America West. Saving airlines from bankruptcy since 2005.
Also, great to see those hiring numbers! Looks like the fastest way to AA will now Not be to go to PDT Psa or Envoy.

chrisreedrules 01-11-2020 02:55 AM


Originally Posted by Battlinbear (Post 2954783)
DP and America West. Saving airlines from bankruptcy since 2005.
Also, great to see those hiring numbers! Looks like the fastest way to AA will now Not be to go to PDT Psa or Envoy.

Nothing much has really changed. The percentage of flows has dropped off a little bit. It’s still the fastest way if you aren’t prior military. The vast majority of those hired off the street will be prior military.

That being said I think there is a “window” that is currently open at the moment for civilian off the street hires... Many pilots haven’t even bothered to apply at AA due to the slim to none chance of being hired off the street. So right now if they were to apply and we’re competitive I’d say their chances haven’t been better to be hired for the past several years. Though personally I know of 3 pilots just hired outside our flow at PSA. So even if they aren’t all flows my gut tells me a lot will still be from the wholly owneds.

UncreativeUser 01-12-2020 09:53 AM


Originally Posted by chrisreedrules (Post 2954793)
Nothing much has really changed. The percentage of flows has dropped off a little bit. It’s still the fastest way if you aren’t prior military. The vast majority of those hired off the street will be prior military.



That being said I think there is a “window” that is currently open at the moment for civilian off the street hires... Many pilots haven’t even bothered to apply at AA due to the slim to none chance of being hired off the street. So right now if they were to apply and we’re competitive I’d say their chances haven’t been better to be hired for the past several years. Though personally I know of 3 pilots just hired outside our flow at PSA. So even if they aren’t all flows my gut tells me a lot will still be from the wholly owneds.



Agreed


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AboveAndBeyond 01-12-2020 10:30 AM


Originally Posted by chrisreedrules (Post 2954793)
Nothing much has really changed. The percentage of flows has dropped off a little bit. It’s still the fastest way if you aren’t prior military. The vast majority of those hired off the street will be prior military.

That being said I think there is a “window” that is currently open at the moment for civilian off the street hires... Many pilots haven’t even bothered to apply at AA due to the slim to none chance of being hired off the street. So right now if they were to apply and we’re competitive I’d say their chances haven’t been better to be hired for the past several years. Though personally I know of 3 pilots just hired outside our flow at PSA. So even if they aren’t all flows my gut tells me a lot will still be from the wholly owneds.

Yes. Quite a few from PSA getting hired outside of the flow at AA right now.

black cat 01-12-2020 07:39 PM


Originally Posted by AboveAndBeyond (Post 2955339)
Yes. Quite a few from PSA getting hired outside of the flow at AA right now.

Well I wouldn't call it quite a few...In 2019 a total of 20 were hired off the street from all 3 WOs. That may change with more street hiring in 2020 though.


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