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Al Czervik 01-05-2020 02:29 AM


Originally Posted by Scrapdaddy (Post 2951236)
Are American Pilots personally charged for each set of numbers they send off? Really need that Full length instead of an intersection departure 200 feet down at a sea level airport? Let’s get it together guys we all see through that “operation purposes” BS.

This is what you’re worried about on a Saturday night?

OVBIII 01-05-2020 04:51 AM


Originally Posted by Al Czervik (Post 2951486)
This is what you’re worried about on a Saturday night?

And boom goes the dynamite. Al for the win.

Name User 01-05-2020 05:06 AM

I find the AA way of pulling new t/o numbers to be fairly tedious personally, and have also seen Capts backtaxi for an extra 200' of takeoff roll on a 10,000' runway in a small narrowbody rather than using the X intersection numbers that had no change.

Also the way AA does their intersection notation is whacky.

FlyyGuyy 01-05-2020 05:30 AM


Originally Posted by Name User (Post 2951528)
I find the AA way of pulling new t/o numbers to be fairly tedious personally, and have also seen Capts backtaxi for an extra 200' of takeoff roll on a 10,000' runway in a small narrowbody rather than using the X intersection numbers that had no change.

Also the way AA does their intersection notation is whacky.

Agreed. It's way more complicated than it needs to be. But we've always done it that way. #facepalm

mainlineAF 01-05-2020 05:32 AM


Originally Posted by Scrapdaddy (Post 2951236)
Are American Pilots personally charged for each set of numbers they send off? Really need that Full length instead of an intersection departure 200 feet down at a sea level airport? Let’s get it together guys we all see through that “operation purposes” BS.



You must really have a pitiful life.

AAfng 01-05-2020 05:54 AM


Originally Posted by Scrapdaddy (Post 2951236)
Are American Pilots personally charged for each set of numbers they send off? Really need that Full length instead of an intersection departure 200 feet down at a sea level airport? Let’s get it together guys we all see through that “operation purposes” BS.

English please? The first sentence still has my wondering what you are trying to say. Edit and delete it.

Scrapdaddy 01-05-2020 07:11 AM


Originally Posted by AAfng (Post 2951557)
English please? The first sentence still has my wondering what you are trying to say. Edit and delete it.

“Has my wondering”? English please? I have no idea what you’re trying to convey with that. Edit and delete please.

R57 relay 01-05-2020 08:32 AM


Originally Posted by Scrapdaddy (Post 2951236)
Are American Pilots personally charged for each set of numbers they send off? Really need that Full length instead of an intersection departure 200 feet down at a sea level airport? Let’s get it together guys we all see through that “operation purposes” BS.

This comes across as an accusation instead of a question. Is there a specific airport that you have run into AA aircraft causing you a problem?

To be legal we have to have the data(as I imagine you do unless the FAA let you have pretty some loose performance procedures.) As the above poster said, sometimes it's easy, sometimes it's not. Sometimes it's quick, sometimes it's not. But, at least on the A320, we set our data before start. We can and often do get and set new numbers, but that opens the door for errors as it's not as easy to cross check while taxiing. A new TPS could have a different flap setting for something as simple as a 200' intersection. Is it worth it at the last minute instead of a quick back taxi? Maybe, maybe not, but again...what has caused you an issue?

Now, what I really want to know is why do UA guys always ask for ride reports every time they check on a new freq.? ;):D

Buzzlightyear 01-05-2020 09:33 AM


Originally Posted by R57 relay (Post 2951646)
This comes across as an accusation instead of a question. Is there a specific airport that you have run into AA aircraft causing you a problem?

To be legal we have to have the data(as I imagine you do unless the FAA let you have pretty some loose performance procedures.) As the above poster said, sometimes it's easy, sometimes it's not. Sometimes it's quick, sometimes it's not. But, at least on the A320, we set our data before start. We can and often do get and set new numbers, but that opens the door for errors as it's not as easy to cross check while taxiing. A new TPS could have a different flap setting for something as simple as a 200' intersection. Is it worth it at the last minute instead of a quick back taxi? Maybe, maybe not, but again...what has caused you an issue?

Now, what I really want to know is why do UA guys always ask for ride reports every time they check on a new freq.? ;):D

All this legality talk is utter nonsense. Just get this guy airborne 39 seconds earlier!

FlyyGuyy 01-05-2020 09:34 AM


Originally Posted by Buzzlightyear (Post 2951694)
All this legality talk is utter nonsense. Just get this guy airborne 39 seconds earlier!

I would have just ignored the thread entirely but it's too fun to make fun of this guy for totd.


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