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Just curious, how do other airlines do it and why is it overly complicated at AA? I thought all airlines used very similar takeoff data. I’ve only flown at a regional before AA and the takeoff data calculations were similar.

To me, the TPS system is reliable and pretty spot on. It gives data for up to 5 runways including intersections. How much more simpler and/or easier can it be?

Sure, if you come in heavier or hotter than planned you gotta make some adjustments.. pull new data or go max thrust. but isn’t that the case at all other airlines?

Thats what I do. Just kidding, thanks

PSA was a little faster of a system for changes. But it wouldn't work at AA. The weight and balance stuff was done differently in the acars. But the info came faster. Which was nice. Sometimes here you feels like it's taking a year to get the updated numbers.

Dude, Is this a serious question?

Don’t tell him what to do

Yes, it is. Why? Or are you going to launch into your typical “I hate everything AA, we’ve always done it this way” line?

I don’t have the experience of having flown for several prior airlines like many of you... only one regional prior to AA. After 20 years at AA I find the TPS system relatively easy to use. Especially compared to the whiz wheel I used to have to use to calculate CG at the regionals back in the day.

I’d love to know how much simpler other systems at other airlines are, and how it’s done.

Care to share your experiences too?

At Envoy, TPS prints out automatically with the closeout. If we want to change something, we can get the new TPS through ACARS and typically we get the new numbers in a few seconds. For intersection takeoffs, we always get the initial numbers for the shortest allowed intersection. That data is then valid for anything behind that point on that runway.

I've never waited for numbers for more than 5 seconds or so. It's a fully automatic system, even when you change flap settings, outside air temp, tailwind, runway and so on.

The TPS is one of the most misunderstood things in the cockpit. I can’t tell you how many times we have needed new numbers and the other guy insisted we didn’t/times we didn’t need new numbers and they insisted we did. A overhaul wouldn’t hurt. It’s a powerful tool but needs a dummy interface. I think it will be 100% uplinked in the future. Uplink=valid