Numbers
01-04-2020 | 01:55 PM
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Are American Pilots personally charged for each set of numbers they send off? Really need that Full length instead of an intersection departure 200 feet down at a sea level airport? Let’s get it together guys we all see through that “operation purposes” BS.
01-04-2020 | 06:16 PM
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Well, if we don’t have the numbers in front of us via our “TPS”, then we can’t do it unless we can make another T/O data request via ACARS and reload everything once we get it, so we’d end up just clogging up the line anyway. So, if we’ve got the numbers, then it’s usually no problem. No numbers, then it’s just way easier and more practical to say unable.
Honestly, though, why do you care? If you’re behind us, you take the intersection while we head for the end. BFD.
Honestly, though, why do you care? If you’re behind us, you take the intersection while we head for the end. BFD.
01-04-2020 | 06:29 PM
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From: MD-11 FO
If we don't have an analysis for a particular intersection (or the ability to get said numbers), we have to use the analysis that we have. Don't blame us. Blame the FAA.
01-04-2020 | 07:20 PM
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Release comes with data lines for 5 runways/intersections. If departure runway is different, need new numbers. If winds, weights, or temps come in high at closeout, need new numbers. Sometimes a request is answered quickly (computer spits out data), sometimes it takes time because load planner needs to massage configuration (flaps, packs off, etc). Hell, sometimes closeout isn’t provided until last moment. 🤷
01-04-2020 | 08:02 PM
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I don’t know. Are you right? You were fairly certain of things with your thread starter but you clearly don’t know what goes on for pulling data.
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