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01-05-2020, 11:55 AM
#22
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Originally Posted by AAfng
Dear moderators, why isnt this flamebait? You guys are throwing points my way, spread the points this guys way.
01-05-2020, 12:31 PM
#23
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Originally Posted by Name User
I find the AA way of pulling new t/o numbers to be fairly tedious personally, and have also seen Capts backtaxi for an extra 200' of takeoff roll on a 10,000' runway in a small narrowbody rather than using the X intersection numbers that had no change.
Also the way AA does their intersection notation is whacky.
Also the way AA does their intersection notation is whacky.
To me, the TPS system is reliable and pretty spot on. It gives data for up to 5 runways including intersections. How much more simpler and/or easier can it be?
Sure, if you come in heavier or hotter than planned you gotta make some adjustments.. pull new data or go max thrust. but isn’t that the case at all other airlines?
01-05-2020, 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by aa73
Just curious, how do other airlines do it and why is it overly complicated at AA? I thought all airlines used very similar takeoff data. I’ve only flown at a regional before AA and the takeoff data calculations were similar.
To me, the TPS system is reliable and pretty spot on. It gives data for up to 5 runways including intersections. How much more simpler and/or easier can it be?
Sure, if you come in heavier or hotter than planned you gotta make some adjustments.. pull new data or go max thrust. but isn’t that the case at all other airlines?
To me, the TPS system is reliable and pretty spot on. It gives data for up to 5 runways including intersections. How much more simpler and/or easier can it be?
Sure, if you come in heavier or hotter than planned you gotta make some adjustments.. pull new data or go max thrust. but isn’t that the case at all other airlines?
01-05-2020, 10:09 PM
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Originally Posted by tomgoodman
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01-06-2020, 03:18 AM
#28
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Originally Posted by Al Czervik
Dude, Is this a serious question?
I don’t have the experience of having flown for several prior airlines like many of you... only one regional prior to AA. After 20 years at AA I find the TPS system relatively easy to use. Especially compared to the whiz wheel I used to have to use to calculate CG at the regionals back in the day.
I’d love to know how much simpler other systems at other airlines are, and how it’s done.
Care to share your experiences too?
Last edited by aa73; 01-06-2020 at 03:32 AM.
01-06-2020, 08:48 AM
#29
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Originally Posted by aa73
Yes, it is. Why? Or are you going to launch into your typical “I hate everything AA, we’ve always done it this way” line?
I don’t have the experience of having flown for several prior airlines like many of you... only one regional prior to AA. After 20 years at AA I find the TPS system relatively easy to use. Especially compared to the whiz wheel I used to have to use to calculate CG at the regionals back in the day.
I’d love to know how much simpler other systems at other airlines are, and how it’s done.
Care to share your experiences too?
I don’t have the experience of having flown for several prior airlines like many of you... only one regional prior to AA. After 20 years at AA I find the TPS system relatively easy to use. Especially compared to the whiz wheel I used to have to use to calculate CG at the regionals back in the day.
I’d love to know how much simpler other systems at other airlines are, and how it’s done.
Care to share your experiences too?
I've never waited for numbers for more than 5 seconds or so. It's a fully automatic system, even when you change flap settings, outside air temp, tailwind, runway and so on.
01-06-2020, 02:20 PM
#30
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Originally Posted by aa73
Yes, it is. Why? Or are you going to launch into your typical “I hate everything AA, we’ve always done it this way” line?
I don’t have the experience of having flown for several prior airlines like many of you... only one regional prior to AA. After 20 years at AA I find the TPS system relatively easy to use. Especially compared to the whiz wheel I used to have to use to calculate CG at the regionals back in the day.
I’d love to know how much simpler other systems at other airlines are, and how it’s done.
Care to share your experiences too?
I don’t have the experience of having flown for several prior airlines like many of you... only one regional prior to AA. After 20 years at AA I find the TPS system relatively easy to use. Especially compared to the whiz wheel I used to have to use to calculate CG at the regionals back in the day.
I’d love to know how much simpler other systems at other airlines are, and how it’s done.
Care to share your experiences too?
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