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Scrapdaddy 01-04-2020 01:55 PM

Numbers
 
Are American Pilots personally charged for each set of numbers they send off? Really need that Full length instead of an intersection departure 200 feet down at a sea level airport? Let’s get it together guys we all see through that “operation purposes” BS.

Morbo 01-04-2020 02:54 PM

What the hell are you taking about?

AverageCoffee 01-04-2020 02:55 PM

I suppose you were on the jumpseat and knew exactly what was going on with the jet

DarinFred 01-04-2020 03:52 PM

I’m paid by the minute.

450knotOffice 01-04-2020 06:16 PM

Well, if we don’t have the numbers in front of us via our “TPS”, then we can’t do it unless we can make another T/O data request via ACARS and reload everything once we get it, so we’d end up just clogging up the line anyway. So, if we’ve got the numbers, then it’s usually no problem. No numbers, then it’s just way easier and more practical to say unable.

Honestly, though, why do you care? If you’re behind us, you take the intersection while we head for the end. BFD.

EMBFlyer 01-04-2020 06:29 PM


Originally Posted by Scrapdaddy (Post 2951236)
Are American Pilots personally charged for each set of numbers they send off? Really need that Full length instead of an intersection departure 200 feet down at a sea level airport? Let’s get it together guys we all see through that “operation purposes” BS.

If we don't have an analysis for a particular intersection (or the ability to get said numbers), we have to use the analysis that we have. Don't blame us. Blame the FAA.

RI830 01-04-2020 06:40 PM

Numbers.....airline pilots love numbers!!
Numbers like V1, 16%, 401 and the letter K, 777, W and 2

Not so much the number 65.

Scrapdaddy 01-04-2020 07:15 PM

Are you guys able to request numbers for more than one runway? Should be an easy uplink if you can receive data for multiples? Am I right?

RhinoBallAuto 01-04-2020 07:20 PM


Originally Posted by Scrapdaddy (Post 2951407)
Are you guys able to request numbers for more than one runway? Should be an easy uplink if you can receive data for multiples? Am I right?

Release comes with data lines for 5 runways/intersections. If departure runway is different, need new numbers. If winds, weights, or temps come in high at closeout, need new numbers. Sometimes a request is answered quickly (computer spits out data), sometimes it takes time because load planner needs to massage configuration (flaps, packs off, etc). Hell, sometimes closeout isn’t provided until last moment. 🤷

Buzzlightyear 01-04-2020 08:02 PM


Originally Posted by Scrapdaddy (Post 2951407)
Are you guys able to request numbers for more than one runway? Should be an easy uplink if you can receive data for multiples? Am I right?

I don’t know. Are you right? You were fairly certain of things with your thread starter but you clearly don’t know what goes on for pulling data.


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