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01-05-2020, 02:29 AM
#11
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Originally Posted by Scrapdaddy
Are American Pilots personally charged for each set of numbers they send off? Really need that Full length instead of an intersection departure 200 feet down at a sea level airport? Let’s get it together guys we all see through that “operation purposes” BS.
01-05-2020, 05:06 AM
#13
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I find the AA way of pulling new t/o numbers to be fairly tedious personally, and have also seen Capts backtaxi for an extra 200' of takeoff roll on a 10,000' runway in a small narrowbody rather than using the X intersection numbers that had no change.
Also the way AA does their intersection notation is whacky.
Also the way AA does their intersection notation is whacky.
01-05-2020, 05:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Name User
I find the AA way of pulling new t/o numbers to be fairly tedious personally, and have also seen Capts backtaxi for an extra 200' of takeoff roll on a 10,000' runway in a small narrowbody rather than using the X intersection numbers that had no change.
Also the way AA does their intersection notation is whacky.
Also the way AA does their intersection notation is whacky.
01-05-2020, 05:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Scrapdaddy
Are American Pilots personally charged for each set of numbers they send off? Really need that Full length instead of an intersection departure 200 feet down at a sea level airport? Let’s get it together guys we all see through that “operation purposes” BS.
You must really have a pitiful life.
01-05-2020, 05:54 AM
#16
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Originally Posted by Scrapdaddy
Are American Pilots personally charged for each set of numbers they send off? Really need that Full length instead of an intersection departure 200 feet down at a sea level airport? Let’s get it together guys we all see through that “operation purposes” BS.
01-05-2020, 07:11 AM
#17
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Originally Posted by AAfng
English please? The first sentence still has my wondering what you are trying to say. Edit and delete it.
01-05-2020, 08:32 AM
#18
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Originally Posted by Scrapdaddy
Are American Pilots personally charged for each set of numbers they send off? Really need that Full length instead of an intersection departure 200 feet down at a sea level airport? Let’s get it together guys we all see through that “operation purposes” BS.
To be legal we have to have the data(as I imagine you do unless the FAA let you have pretty some loose performance procedures.) As the above poster said, sometimes it's easy, sometimes it's not. Sometimes it's quick, sometimes it's not. But, at least on the A320, we set our data before start. We can and often do get and set new numbers, but that opens the door for errors as it's not as easy to cross check while taxiing. A new TPS could have a different flap setting for something as simple as a 200' intersection. Is it worth it at the last minute instead of a quick back taxi? Maybe, maybe not, but again...what has caused you an issue?
Now, what I really want to know is why do UA guys always ask for ride reports every time they check on a new freq.?
01-05-2020, 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by R57 relay
This comes across as an accusation instead of a question. Is there a specific airport that you have run into AA aircraft causing you a problem?
To be legal we have to have the data(as I imagine you do unless the FAA let you have pretty some loose performance procedures.) As the above poster said, sometimes it's easy, sometimes it's not. Sometimes it's quick, sometimes it's not. But, at least on the A320, we set our data before start. We can and often do get and set new numbers, but that opens the door for errors as it's not as easy to cross check while taxiing. A new TPS could have a different flap setting for something as simple as a 200' intersection. Is it worth it at the last minute instead of a quick back taxi? Maybe, maybe not, but again...what has caused you an issue?
Now, what I really want to know is why do UA guys always ask for ride reports every time they check on a new freq.?
To be legal we have to have the data(as I imagine you do unless the FAA let you have pretty some loose performance procedures.) As the above poster said, sometimes it's easy, sometimes it's not. Sometimes it's quick, sometimes it's not. But, at least on the A320, we set our data before start. We can and often do get and set new numbers, but that opens the door for errors as it's not as easy to cross check while taxiing. A new TPS could have a different flap setting for something as simple as a 200' intersection. Is it worth it at the last minute instead of a quick back taxi? Maybe, maybe not, but again...what has caused you an issue?
Now, what I really want to know is why do UA guys always ask for ride reports every time they check on a new freq.?
01-05-2020, 09:34 AM
#20
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Originally Posted by Buzzlightyear
All this legality talk is utter nonsense. Just get this guy airborne 39 seconds earlier!
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