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Old 05-13-2020, 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Mea25000 View Post
I have made 185k in the last 6 weeks shorting you’re company, it’s not the debt dude... you are burning 50 million a day... There is no revenue. That means your 9 billion light come September... without servicing any debt. I would suggest the November $8, make some money on your company... I bet I will make 300k from AAL this year, it’s the gift that keeps on giving. If I had real stones I think I could draw a million out. I kinda feel like I am an American pilot with what I am making off them.
I call bull 💩 !
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Old 05-13-2020, 06:37 PM
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What is there to guess in we are 1328 or so over staffed. So excluding anymore early retirements that I think we will see once the displacement is final I would guess whatever 1328-minus any more retirements and maybe some buffer.
It would be great if we could not furlough, but I think 1500-2000 over time is a possibility.
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Old 05-13-2020, 06:39 PM
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1328 or so.. hence 1000-1500 estimate. I would bet another round or two of early outs.. list will come down slightly.
Yeah I got it at as I hit send my apologies to you. It was more directed at Mr. 3000 furloughs who doesn’t even work for us. That said I fully agree it will come down more with more people hitting 63 and people looking at their new job going NOPE we will see another chunk of early outs.
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Originally Posted by Mea25000 View Post
I have made 185k in the last 6 weeks shorting you’re company, it’s not the debt dude... you are burning 50 million a day... There is no revenue. That means your 9 billion light come September... without servicing any debt. I would suggest the November $8, make some money on your company... I bet I will make 300k from AAL this year, it’s the gift that keeps on giving. If I had real stones I think I could draw a million out. I kinda feel like I am an American pilot with what I am making off them.
That's nice. I've made money off Alaska stock. UPRO too, but I consider ALK stock much less risky.
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Old 05-13-2020, 06:47 PM
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It would be great if we could not furlough, but I think 1500-2000 over time is a possibility.
Well after reading some of the recent company info, maybe no furloughs is a possibility. It was nice to read about seeing some positive trends and us making 200% on some of the cargo flights is great. Maybe we should screw this hauling people around stuff
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Old 05-13-2020, 06:51 PM
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That's nice. I've made money off Alaska stock. UPRO too, but I consider ALK stock much less risky.
If your a pilot you should be taking advantage of this right now... a hair cut could be coming soon for all of us. Puts played on any airline right now are probably a big winner. I mean no disrespect but the safest one right now is AAL. But yes ALK will work, our stock at some point probably becomes attractive to a big fish and that could burn you... Probably not as much in this environment but you never know. Options play fast, 10% = 100% in movement. Play safe, but there is a lot of Wall Street and management money up for grabs.... they always seem to grab ours when they can. Play out a little bit and close to the money if you have never played options before... it’s safest, if there is such a thing in option trading.
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Old 05-13-2020, 06:56 PM
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Yeah I got it at as I hit send my apologies to you. It was more directed at Mr. 3000 furloughs who doesn’t even work for us. That said I fully agree it will come down more with more people hitting 63 and people looking at their new job going NOPE we will see another chunk of early outs.
All good man. Let’s hope we don’t furlough! Hopefully they’ll lower the age and increase the hours and HSA %.
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Old 05-15-2020, 05:38 PM
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So I just read the message on how they will conduct this bid. Looks like they will run preferences first, then displacements. However, if you get initially awarded a preference, you could get bumped right back out of it by a displacement, even if the displacing pilot is junior! I totally disagree with that. They should run the preferences, then run the displacements, and that’s it. If there’s a position open that a senior pilot could hold, they should be allowed to get it before a junior pilot. For example, say number 1 FO in a bid is senior enough to hold a senior CA position. He decides to take it. Let’s say there are 5 vacancies. If there are 5 displacements junior to him wanting those spots, they will get it and he won’t. He should get the vacancy and the bottom pilot should be flushed by the overage. The flushing should come from the bottom, not from senior pilots. Any idea what the contract says in reference to this?
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Old 05-16-2020, 07:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Mea25000 View Post
If your a pilot you should be taking advantage of this right now... a hair cut could be coming soon for all of us. Puts played on any airline right now are probably a big winner. I mean no disrespect but the safest one right now is AAL. But yes ALK will work, our stock at some point probably becomes attractive to a big fish and that could burn you... Probably not as much in this environment but you never know. Options play fast, 10% = 100% in movement. Play safe, but there is a lot of Wall Street and management money up for grabs.... they always seem to grab ours when they can. Play out a little bit and close to the money if you have never played options before... it’s safest, if there is such a thing in option trading.
buy puts at the bottom lol never take stock advice from a pilot
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Old 05-16-2020, 08:20 AM
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buy puts at the bottom lol never take stock advice from a pilot
Think 1 month, 3 months, 6 months, 12 months from now, looking at the 5/15 close of $9 will still be the bottom?
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