Originally Posted by All Bizniz

That was my point. If you have comorbidities and Corona hastens your demise, then it should be considered a Covid related death. (I'm not talking about murders, car accidents, etc)

My aunt was a nurse in 2 nursing home for 40 years and retired December 2019. I just spoke with her. She told me the great majority of patients in nursing homes are actually in there for years.

There's a wide range of age, and medical reasons why people are put in nursing homes, but the majority are certainly not dying. Many are put there because family members are unable or unwilling to deal with the issues related to their care.

Again, I am not sure where you're getting your data from, but I doubt the majority of the 215,000 US Covid-19 deaths occurred in nursing homes. Yes, the majority of Covid deaths were of people with underlying conditions, but nursing home residents are merely a subset of our country's general population, and because they are in a concentrated setting, their deaths as a percentage of their population subset would no doubt be alarming.

​​​​​As for your supposed 25% mis-clasiification of Corona deaths... What's the point you're trying to make? Are you saying there's a conspiracy to inflate the number of deaths for some nefarious reason, or are you just highlighting the broken state of our healthcare system, or what?

Originally Posted by airspeedsalive

I flew with a guy a few months back that wore a mask the entire trip. I didn’t like it. The problem for me wasn’t so much that I had a more difficult time than usual understanding him (ESL guy), but it was that fact that I felt a lot of non-verbal communication was lost. If there is a real problem going on with a glance, you can tell if the other guy is nervous, lost or on the same page. I felt like that “communication” was lost, or at least diminished. Just an observation.

Originally Posted by TiredSoul

I’m sure they feel the same way....

Originally Posted by ny797

Alright Captain Chaos, read a little about what I wrote before you lose it. I simply said if another pilot requests you wear one then its common courtesy to comply, especially given the unprecedented times we're currently in. I never said anything about forcing my own mask policy. I did, however, say that I prefer to go maskless - but I'm just one of 15,000 pilots...So no need for me to come out of my bunker although you certainly sound like a tin-foil cap wearing doomsday prepper who worries every day about the government coming after all their freedoms!!

Originally Posted by TiredSoul

I’m sure they feel the same way....

Originally Posted by Thedude86

I think it’s pretty common knowledge even on CNN that a big chunk of covid deaths are from nursing homes. Look at the stats I posted earlier straight from the CDC. If you’re younger than 70 you have a greater chance of dying from about 15 other causes before you die from Covid.

My “supposed” (as you claim) 25% mis-classification of covid deaths are directly from the “experts” and state health officials. They’re not from some third party conspiracy theorist journalist. The only way you can actually believe all 215k deaths are legit is to totally disregard what our experts and public health officials are telling us.

For you to believe all 215k covid deaths are legit then you literally have to assume that our public health officials are lying to us as to how they count covid deaths.

Originally Posted by Bozo the pilot

You wear a mask in your car alone dont you?

Originally Posted by rvfanatic

The argument that masks prevent good cockpit communication is hypocritical given the propensity of cross cockpit communication (speaker on above FL180/headset off and headset off one ear all other times) instead of using the intercom system. If we want to have a serious discussion on safety let’s do that and not pick and choose.