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Old 05-04-2021, 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by thrust View Post
This seemed like the proverbial “clean up” bid. Two more vacancy bids to come this year, along with 300 new hires, to staff for summer 2022 will be interesting.

Saw on another forum that, starting summer 2022, AA needs to hire 2-3 pilots a day just to maintain current staffing levels.
This actually has me concerned. Between today and the end of 2025 alone we’re retiring 3400+ pilots. I’m hoping the folks in GSW have a plan, because this plus trying to grow back to a 15,000 pilot group is a monumental task. Maybe the new CQT cycle and a fewer number of fleet types will help unclog the training pipeline.
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Old 05-04-2021, 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by biigD View Post
That's true, no growth. But hopefully the hiring will at least generate some movement for better seniority in our seat, upgrades, etc. This bid was underwhelming to those of us not displaced in September, but without any hiring I didn't really expect anything different. I'm hoping the bids get a little more interesting once we start seeing new faces in the Fall.
someone just described this as a giant "mutual base exchange" award...I thought that was pretty accurate. If you closely at it it looks like very little training and in fact most of those that do require training, outside the furloughs coming back, were withheld....looks like it's going to be a tough summer for CAs especially in DFW and CLT, should equate to lots of PM flying though...just my thought anyways.
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Old 05-04-2021, 09:48 AM
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Old 05-04-2021, 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by El Peso View Post
This actually has me concerned. Between today and the end of 2025 alone we’re retiring 3400+ pilots. I’m hoping the folks in GSW have a plan, because this plus trying to grow back to a 15,000 pilot group is a monumental task. Maybe the new CQT cycle and a fewer number of fleet types will help unclog the training pipeline.
I really doubt we will be a 15,000 pilot airline again.

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someone just described this as a giant "mutual base exchange" award...I thought that was pretty accurate. If you closely at it it looks like very little training and in fact most of those that do require training, outside the furloughs coming back, were withheld....looks like it's going to be a tough summer for CAs especially in DFW and CLT, should equate to lots of PM flying though...just my thought anyways.
The next few months are going to be a mess, all of the short call 737/I ca's in DFW timed out last month.
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Old 05-04-2021, 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by El Peso View Post
This actually has me concerned. Between today and the end of 2025 alone we’re retiring 3400+ pilots. I’m hoping the folks in GSW have a plan, because this plus trying to grow back to a 15,000 pilot group is a monumental task. Maybe the new CQT cycle and a fewer number of fleet types will help unclog the training pipeline.
That means, without much of any growth or other attrition, AA will need 750 per year on average just for retirements. In 2018, the peak, new hires were just over 900. So, my projection is new hires will need to be as many and as strong as that peak.
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Old 05-04-2021, 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by nimslow View Post
I really doubt we will be a 15,000 pilot airline again.



The next few months are going to be a mess, all of the short call 737/I ca's in DFW timed out last month.
I timed out on April. In my first month from recall. Lga 320 fo.
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Old 05-04-2021, 11:23 AM
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Flew with a CKA recently. He said the 300/600 number was conservative and the potential low end based on concern over international flying and how well the recovery goes… but that the training dept feels those numbers could grow to 300/900 on the top end. Of course, take that with a massive grain of salt… CKA intel ranks right behind van driver and FA rumors in the hierarchy.
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Old 05-04-2021, 01:03 PM
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Is there any indication to what the Jr bases will be, for those of us joining soon?
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Old 05-04-2021, 01:45 PM
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Is there any indication to what the Jr bases will be, for those of us joining soon?
LGA and LAX are overwhelmingly the most jr based on this last bid, you might see some DCA and MIA slots for new hires too.
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Really?? That’s great news for us LeftCoasters.
thanks
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