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Old 09-09-2021 | 05:39 AM
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Just depends on what base you are in. Don't try that in NY...they don't allow commuter misses in NY. Doesn't matter what the CBA says.
I wouldn’t make a habit out of commuter miss, but sick isn’t the only way to get out of a trip, rogue douchebag LGA chief pilots be damned. And said douchebag chiefs definitely don’t include RM. Can you provide any stats on how many LGA pilots have been terminated specifically because of utilizing (not abusing) the commuter miss section of the contract?

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Old 09-09-2021 | 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by thrust
I wouldn’t make a habit out of commuter miss, but sick isn’t the only way to get out of a trip, rogue douchebag LGA chief pilots be damned. And said douchebag chiefs definitely don’t include RM. Can you provide any stats on how many LGA pilots have been terminated specifically because of utilizing (not abusing) the commuter miss section of the contract?
RM is great. No issues there at all.

As far as terminated, a few. Not too many. But they do make your life difficult.
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Old 09-10-2021 | 07:26 AM
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Originally Posted by DoNoHarm
RM is great. No issues there at all.

As far as terminated, a few. Not too many. But they do make your life difficult.

wow....

"4. A pilot who keeps accurate records of his scheduled commuter
flights and otherwise complies with the provisions of
this commuter policy shall not be subject to discipline for
missing trip pairings due to denied boarding.
5. A pilot may use the commuter policy as necessary with no
limitations."

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Old 09-10-2021 | 10:23 AM
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A few. Not many. The point remains- you’d have to really, really try to get fired from AA via blatant, rampant abuse of commuter miss. Pretty much nobody does that. Obviously, if you’re on probation, tread lightly.
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Old 09-10-2021 | 05:43 PM
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People get fired for sitting short call in a city that is 1.5 hour FLIGHT away…. On probation. Never heard of commuter clause firings, but anything can happen as an overzealous probie
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Old 09-10-2021 | 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by DoNoHarm
Just depends on what base you are in. Don't try that in NY...they don't allow commuter misses in NY. Doesn't matter what the CBA says.
This has to be a joke.
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Old 09-11-2021 | 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Al Czervik
This has to be a joke.
LGA is the base where the APA reps actually brag about what good friends with the chiefs they are.

LGA is the base where chiefs call pilots with information they only could have received from the union.

LGA is the base that habitually violates our commuter clause and gets nothing but crickets from our union (they all must be out boating together all the time).

LGA is the base with the reps that tell pilots that want enforcement/change that they should have stayed at their Regional.
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Old 09-11-2021 | 02:04 PM
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So how bad is LGA for someone who does not play any games to begin with? I’m sure I’ll likely get LGA out of the gate and I’ll be a commuter. I commute from ORD, so there’s tons of flights, so I don’t intend to play the one shot game. But this is a little unnerving to hear. I figure with probation and what not of being extra cautious. What other advice do you all have for someone to ensure survival in LGA as a probationary new hire?
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Old 09-11-2021 | 02:50 PM
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The mere fact that you are thinking about “behaving” means you’ll be fine, regardless of what base you get. Granted I was not based there as an FO but have been on the private boards since the merger and have only heard relatively minor burbles about LGA chiefs. LGA reps on the other hand…
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Old 09-15-2021 | 05:18 AM
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Originally Posted by symbian simian
wow....

"4. A pilot who keeps accurate records of his scheduled commuter
flights and otherwise complies with the provisions of
this commuter policy shall not be subject to discipline for
missing trip pairings due to denied boarding.
5. A pilot may use the commuter policy as necessary with no
limitations."

nk
Where are you getting that language? It's definitely not Supp G.
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