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CaptainSlow 09-16-2022 03:50 PM

So just to be clear, this Snake1234 character’s only goal here is to encourage negotiating in public and to divide pilots over specific numbers. If he’s not management, he probably should be.
If you can’t read their arguments without becoming angry or perplexed by how someone’s brain could work that way, they’re probably a troll. Bravo to those that figured it out before I did.


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RadialRover 09-16-2022 03:51 PM


Originally Posted by chrisreedrules (Post 3496263)
I am at a legacy. It isn’t American. But I spent the better part of a decade flying AA passengers and I have a more intimate knowledge of the situation than most.

The problem just happens to be AAL’s problem. But it could have been extremely beneficial and lucrative for APA to work towards solving. But hey, moot point. You don’t get it and nothing I say to the contrary is going to convince you. Enjoy the rest of your career.

I understand your idea, but also understand it’s just like your opinion man and also not a good idea so no not going to agree with it. Keep being angry about working for Eagle and not getting hired by absorption.

chrisreedrules 09-16-2022 04:10 PM


Originally Posted by RadialRover (Post 3496267)
I understand your idea, but also understand it’s just like your opinion man and also not a good idea so no not going to agree with it. Keep being angry about working for Eagle and not getting hired by absorption.

I could have flowed. I chose not to. I’m not angry. Just flabbergasted by your pilot group and your union. Can you articulate for me and anyone else following along why absorbing the regional flying and pilots into mainline is not a good idea?

FAIPMAFIA 09-16-2022 04:11 PM

Don’t mean no disrespect or anything but you guys deserve better. Sorry to see this.

keep us posted on the next picketing event. I’ll be there.


From a Delta guy.

J3nkums 09-16-2022 04:15 PM


Originally Posted by Snake1234 (Post 3496101)
You mean whining, not generalizations. Why not get specific? Why not spell out what is a “good deal” instead of incipient complaining?

Lol this guy is either a troll, management shill, or has no self worth as a professional at AA since literally every other peer has a compensation package that's a minimum of 5% or more better than ours. Pretty sad.

FlyingSlowly 09-16-2022 04:23 PM


Originally Posted by chrisreedrules (Post 3496275)
I could have flowed. I chose not to. I’m not angry. Just flabbergasted by your pilot group and your union. Can you articulate for me and anyone else following along why absorbing the regional flying and pilots into mainline is not a good idea?

Yeah, this is what those at your former employer were hoping for. But about a year ago. Instead, middle management at the regional was pretending like they held all the cards...

Now AAG is paying the $$$$ price, and APA pilots are losing out.

BUT...There is one big reason AA does not want to staple. How will AA hire off the street, if there are suddenly another 4000+ pilots (ENY,PDT,PSA) at the bottom of their seniority list overnight?

Montcalm 09-16-2022 05:00 PM


Originally Posted by Snake1234 (Post 3496024)
Who gives a **** about first year pilots, I’m serious. Lastly, what is not disappointing for a pay raise? Define it. 18% is not bad.

I cannot believe people like this exist at this airline. It's embarrassing.

J3nkums 09-16-2022 05:23 PM


Originally Posted by Montcalm (Post 3496291)
I cannot believe people like this exist at this airline. It's embarrassing.

Fortunately, I'm sure he's on his way out. The next few years we can rid ourselves of guys like this.

Montcalm 09-16-2022 05:26 PM


Originally Posted by J3nkums (Post 3496301)
Fortunately, I'm sure he's on his way out. The next few years we can rid ourselves of guys like this.

Not soon enough.

450knotOffice 09-16-2022 05:38 PM

Jeez, guys. Clearly he’s management of some sort, or involved with the company’s negotiating team.
I know no line pilot who thinks like this person.


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