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Old 10-27-2022 | 05:57 AM
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Default Will it pass the pilot group?

If this horrendous garbage makes it to an actual TA and goes to the pilot group for a vote, will it pass?

I think not, it is terrible. Lot of Chicken Littles think it will.

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Old 10-27-2022 | 06:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Rroku
If this horrendous garbage makes it to an actual TA and goes to the pilot group for a vote, will it pass?

I think not, it is terrible. Lot of Chicken Littles think it will.

What say you?
I used to think a garbage TA would still pass, but I've been slowly changing my mind as the details of this thing become more known. There's a lot of stuff in here that's terrible for *everyone* - senior guys included. And I'm not sure the pay bump is enough for the money wh$res to look the other way.
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Old 10-27-2022 | 06:14 AM
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This poll is worthless since anyone on APC can vote, and if it goes strongly in favor of passing it could undermine the AA pilot group's leverage.

The OP should delete this.
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Old 10-27-2022 | 06:16 AM
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If I had to bet.. TA will FAIL.. 60/40
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Old 10-27-2022 | 06:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Margaritaville
This poll is worthless since anyone on APC can vote, and if it goes strongly in favor of passing it could undermine the AA pilot group's leverage.
This is APC - it doesn't represent anything anyway. Everyone is a no voter here. That's how I knew the Alaska TA would pass by 80% - there were actually a few yes voters on the board.
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Old 10-27-2022 | 06:19 AM
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Originally Posted by biigD
That's how I knew the Alaska TA would pass by 80% - there were actually a few yes voters on the board.
Management at every airline reads this board and they agree with you. It's more of a barometer than most think. They also have their shills who come here to lower expectations frequently. They know how to get an agreement that will get 50%+ 1 vote. That's why the BOD needs to say no before the pilots even get a chance to say yes.
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Old 10-27-2022 | 06:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Margaritaville
This poll is worthless since anyone on APC can vote, and if it goes strongly in favor of passing it could undermine the AA pilot group's leverage.

The OP should delete this.
So all the sky is falling, this will pass posts are good, but a poll is bad?

90% of people I talk to are no votes. This will fail, but I hope the pilot group won't be the one to decide that. Shouldn't even get to us.

If it somehow does get to us, and people think it will pass, even if this poll ends up showing that, maybe it'll give them more reason to cast that ballot, I need to vote, I need to say F no!
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Old 10-27-2022 | 06:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Rroku
So all the sky is falling, this will pass posts are good, but a poll is bad?

90% of people I talk to are no votes. This will fail, but I hope the pilot group won't be the one to decide that. Shouldn't even get to us.

If it somehow does get to us, and people think it will pass, even if this poll ends up showing that, maybe it'll give them more reason to cast that ballot, I need to vote, I need to say F no!
Exactly. I hope the BOD shoots it down. 70/30 no? Magic8 says Maybe. I'd honestly be surprised if it gets to us and passes; but I'm still a newb so I don't know much anyway
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