There is only a very small number of WO pilots making the $214 a hour. It’s only those that have been there more than five years and haven’t had a chance to flow yet. If you decline the flow, your pay will drop significantly, unless you are an LCA. The only ones making $428 an hour are LCAs, while instructing (though likely most of their flying), and many of them are choosing to stay anyway. As far as the 300% OT, that is gone at Envoy at least, as they get transitioned to a single fleet type.

But it is still a back door way to keep an everyone at the WOs that decided they want to go to AA so they could still live in base there another month. But that’s also more incentive for those on the edge to go elsewhere.

That was mainly a tongue in cheek reply for a request to expand on a semi tongue in cheek post (I'm guessing he's not familiar with AAG WO flow dynamics). But anyone that's within a year of flow and have selected the option to flow is making $214 per hour, I'm not sure I'd call that small but, anyway, that's essentially who we're talking about when it comes to a month pause in hiring (and the CA's not within a year of flowing are making something like $160-$165/hr and FOs with 750 hours also making CA pay, not bad). And then there's the bonus that's tied to the previous two years flying that was signed less than two years ago so it's prorated so those stuck an extra month get an extra $2k or so. Then there's the OT, not much 300% anymore, right, but there's still 200% in some places and any OT is a minimum of 150% (at Envoy). And all that is just for a lowly line pilot, not someone with special status like line check airman or sim check airman and there seem to be a lot of those given all the training that's going on.

Then maybe have your guys stop bragging about making $500 to $800 an hour on the last trip they just picked up when riding our jumpseats. Believe me, it does not go over as well as you think it did and usually ends up on our Facebook forum on how misguided our Corporate Overlord's priorities are right now. They can throw all this money at the WOs but can't agree to our terms on a long overdue contract? Again, not shedding a tear at the June class pause.

lol, yeah, I’m not at Envoy anymore and I don’t think pitch is either.

As far as bragging on pay on the jumpseat goes? I hope that riled some feathers. Remember, almost all WO pilots will spend more time at AA than they will at their WO. They would rather see AAG focus resources here than there. That olive branch was extended but was refused though. So here we are. If people here get ****ed off… well, they should be.

When does the Class Drop for the next class is dropped? Any info for the 23-17 Class starting on the 10th of May?

Probably come out Friday or Monday.

May 10th class
 

Just curious... Anyone starting a whatsapp group chat for the May 10th class?

Check RST American on Facebook. There is info about a group on there.

It usually comes out via email to those in the class on Thursday afternoon, and sometimes Friday morning before class.

My tin foil hat interferes with my reception of fb products like whatsapp. Any chance I can persuade folks to start using Signal?