AA vs UAL
#311
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You all are awesome, thanks so much for the speedy and honest responses. As of now I’m staying in the New York area, looking forward to the movement and getting some time at home again. Miami commuting has been rough for the past year! I’m very eager to get over soon, I know it’s coming!
Thanks again!
Thanks again!
#312
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You all are awesome, thanks so much for the speedy and honest responses. As of now I’m staying in the New York area, looking forward to the movement and getting some time at home again. Miami commuting has been rough for the past year! I’m very eager to get over soon, I know it’s coming!
Thanks again!
Thanks again!
IIRC (union website is under a cyber attack and is down rn) the most junior captain on property: hire date Feb 2022, retires January 2060, LGA 737
#313
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How does age vs seniority movement factor into that equation? If someone has a CJO in hand from each carrier and they're 30 years old, I could see the case for UAL/ORD.
If someone is 55, I would think it would favor AAL/ORD.
It'd be nice for a general reference if there were an Age vs Retirements chart for the 3 carriers so one could factor that into their decision process.
If someone is 55, I would think it would favor AAL/ORD.
It'd be nice for a general reference if there were an Age vs Retirements chart for the 3 carriers so one could factor that into their decision process.
Isn’t there already an age vs retirement method available? 55 yrs old? Find out what your first seniority number would be and look at the next 10(12?) years of retirement to see your seniority progression by year?
Comparing AA vs UA in depth would require finding out the age of each pilot in ORD for each airline. Then subtract each year’s ORD retirements to find out what their relative seniority would be in ORD. Then compare with the other airline to see what trips/seats they hold year over year at each airline. It can be done if the airlines provide the ages of each pilot on the base (ie ORD) seniority list. AA provides that data to the pilots.
^^^ I’d did that with a guy comparing DFW vs CLT. Told him it was only accurate the day it was computed AND we’re assuming everyone in the base retires from that base. It’s not perfect but better than nothing. Fast forward a couple of years and he’d moved to CLT from DFW….and CLT stagnated while DFW grew. His ultimate plan was yo move back to whatever base he didn’t choose, in this case DFW, and while the analysis might have been off a bit in the bigger it still looks like DFW will be a better w/b base for him as his seniority improves.
#314
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LGA will always be the most jr base. Then choose 737 or Airbus. If you go Airbus, you can pick out of base trips more easily for extra $. Plus, it's a better plane all the way around and more comfortable. I flew the 737 for nearly a decade for reference. Airbus has autoland, so you'll get in instead of diverting in the really bad wx.
IIRC (union website is under a cyber attack and is down rn) the most junior captain on property: hire date Feb 2022, retires January 2060, LGA 737
IIRC (union website is under a cyber attack and is down rn) the most junior captain on property: hire date Feb 2022, retires January 2060, LGA 737
#315
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Aren’t the 737 and A320 approach minimums the same? Ive been off the 737 for 12 yrs and the A320 for 7 yrs so the memory is poor regarding approach minimums. And if one is lower (Airbus?) how often does it actually come into play? I flew CAT IIIA autoland aircraft for 19 years and probably did less than 5-10 CAT III approaches.
320: you don't have to see anything @ DH
99.9% sure that is the difference
I've only done a single CAT 3 in 737 and we had to go around because it flagged an error at about 100'.
I suppose it's a bigger deal if flying in PNW.
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