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Flyinguy 07-20-2023 03:41 PM


Originally Posted by Supermoto (Post 3669742)
Source?

More words

My father's brother's nephew's cousin's former roommate.

thrust 07-20-2023 03:41 PM

There are some hardcore “yes” voters claiming Isom added the above, but evil/incompetent APA is surrendering to the “no” voters, turning the extra offer down, driving a no vote overall or just cancelling it outright, and going to mediation in a recession and won’t do any better in the long run and the sky is falling.

Meanwhile, there are some hardcore “no” voters claiming Isom added the above, but evil/incompetent APA is surrendering to the “yes” voters, rolling over and taking the extras without fixing any of the TA, leading to a yes vote overall and we will be stuck in third place forever and the sky is falling.

Flyinguy 07-20-2023 03:53 PM


Originally Posted by thrust (Post 3669779)
There are some hardcore “yes” voters claiming Isom added the above, but evil/incompetent APA is surrendering to the “no” voters, turning the extra offer down, driving a no vote overall or just cancelling it outright, and going to mediation in a recession and won’t do any better in the long run and the sky is falling.

Meanwhile, there are some hardcore “no” voters claiming Isom added the above, but evil/incompetent APA is surrendering to the “yes” voters, rolling over and taking the extras without fixing any of the TA, leading to a yes vote overall and we will be stuck in third place forever and the sky is falling.

That wins the internet.

rdneckpilot 07-20-2023 05:00 PM


Originally Posted by thrust (Post 3669779)
There are some hardcore “yes” voters claiming Isom added the above, but evil/incompetent APA is surrendering to the “no” voters, turning the extra offer down, driving a no vote overall or just cancelling it outright, and going to mediation in a recession and won’t do any better in the long run and the sky is falling.

Meanwhile, there are some hardcore “no” voters claiming Isom added the above, but evil/incompetent APA is surrendering to the “yes” voters, rolling over and taking the extras without fixing any of the TA, leading to a yes vote overall and we will be stuck in third place forever and the sky is falling.

nailed it.

Edit:

Ive tried being moderate and objective on the Line. It’s impossible. The never yes and always yes lose their ****.

Supermoto 07-21-2023 04:28 AM


Originally Posted by rdneckpilot (Post 3669807)
nailed it.

Edit:

Ive tried being moderate and objective on the Line. It’s impossible. The never yes and always yes lose their ****.

On the Line the always yes crowd rarely expose themselves and when they do, the NO'ers converge on them like someone dropped a honey covered caterpillar on an ant pile. Ruthless.

dsevo 07-21-2023 05:45 AM


Originally Posted by Supermoto (Post 3669947)
On the Line the always yes crowd rarely expose themselves and when they do, the NO'ers converge on them like someone dropped a honey covered caterpillar on an ant pile. Ruthless.

We must read a different “The Line.”

The always yes crowd somehow manages to be more obnoxious than the never no crowd. Same few folks constantly screaming to take whatever is offered.

CRJJ 07-21-2023 06:01 AM


Originally Posted by dsevo (Post 3669972)
We must read a different “The Line.”

The always yes crowd somehow manages to be more obnoxious than the never no crowd. Same few folks constantly screaming to take whatever is offered.

You sure must be reading a different line.

Hueypilot 07-21-2023 01:36 PM


Originally Posted by dsevo (Post 3669972)
We must read a different “The Line.”

The always yes crowd somehow manages to be more obnoxious than the never no crowd. Same few folks constantly screaming to take whatever is offered.

"Never no"? So always yes? Because that's what never no means. Maybe you meant "always no."

TankerDriver 07-21-2023 03:02 PM

Fresh off the press:This afternoon, in response to our demands, management responded with a comprehensive proposal designed to bring closure to negotiations and maintain the membership voting schedule to the extent possible.

Management made proposals in many areas to include the following:
  • Snap-up to match Delta/United pay rates after the Delta snap-up triggers
  • Future wage increases accelerated to take effect every January 1
  • Ratification bonus of 21% to fill the retro hole January-April 2023 based on longevity and seat on May 2, 2023
  • 401(k) acceleration of increase to January 2024
  • Increase in international override to $7/$5
  • Increase in per diem to domestic $2.85/international $3.40
  • Extended sick leave bank pre-loaded to 120 hours and accruing 4 hours per month in addition to previous accrual
  • Medical freedom protections
  • Max un-augmented duty day lesser of 13 hours or FAR 117 table B minus 30’
  • Reserve “show, no go” pay increase to 5 hours
  • 2-hour OG incentive for reserves volunteering to show and subsequently assigned prior to 1000 on day 1
  • Hotel guarantees for reassignments outside original sequence footprint with no opportunity to commute to home of record that calendar day
  • Maximum duty periods in sequence not to exceed number of calendar days
  • Increase in life insurance coverage to $750,000 regardless of age

    I think everyone owes our brothers and sisters over at United/ALPA a head nod in the terminals and maybe even a beer at the hotel bar.

FNGFO 07-21-2023 03:20 PM


Originally Posted by TankerDriver (Post 3670253)
Fresh off the press:This afternoon, in response to our demands, management responded with a comprehensive proposal designed to bring closure to negotiations and maintain the membership voting schedule to the extent possible.

Management made proposals in many areas to include the following:
  • Snap-up to match Delta/United pay rates after the Delta snap-up triggers
  • Future wage increases accelerated to take effect every January 1
  • Ratification bonus of 21% to fill the retro hole January-April 2023 based on longevity and seat on May 2, 2023
  • 401(k) acceleration of increase to January 2024
  • Increase in international override to $7/$5
  • Increase in per diem to domestic $2.85/international $3.40
  • Extended sick leave bank pre-loaded to 120 hours and accruing 4 hours per month in addition to previous accrual
  • Medical freedom protections
  • Max un-augmented duty day lesser of 13 hours or FAR 117 table B minus 30’
  • Reserve “show, no go” pay increase to 5 hours
  • 2-hour OG incentive for reserves volunteering to show and subsequently assigned prior to 1000 on day 1
  • Hotel guarantees for reassignments outside original sequence footprint with no opportunity to commute to home of record that calendar day
  • Maximum duty periods in sequence not to exceed number of calendar days
  • Increase in life insurance coverage to $750,000 regardless of age

    I think everyone owes our brothers and sisters over at United/ALPA a head nod in the terminals and maybe even a beer at the hotel bar.


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