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07-20-2023 | 03:41 PM
#12
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There are some hardcore “yes” voters claiming Isom added the above, but evil/incompetent APA is surrendering to the “no” voters, turning the extra offer down, driving a no vote overall or just cancelling it outright, and going to mediation in a recession and won’t do any better in the long run and the sky is falling.
Meanwhile, there are some hardcore “no” voters claiming Isom added the above, but evil/incompetent APA is surrendering to the “yes” voters, rolling over and taking the extras without fixing any of the TA, leading to a yes vote overall and we will be stuck in third place forever and the sky is falling.
Meanwhile, there are some hardcore “no” voters claiming Isom added the above, but evil/incompetent APA is surrendering to the “yes” voters, rolling over and taking the extras without fixing any of the TA, leading to a yes vote overall and we will be stuck in third place forever and the sky is falling.
07-20-2023 | 03:53 PM
#13
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Joined: Sep 2017
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There are some hardcore “yes” voters claiming Isom added the above, but evil/incompetent APA is surrendering to the “no” voters, turning the extra offer down, driving a no vote overall or just cancelling it outright, and going to mediation in a recession and won’t do any better in the long run and the sky is falling.
Meanwhile, there are some hardcore “no” voters claiming Isom added the above, but evil/incompetent APA is surrendering to the “yes” voters, rolling over and taking the extras without fixing any of the TA, leading to a yes vote overall and we will be stuck in third place forever and the sky is falling.
Meanwhile, there are some hardcore “no” voters claiming Isom added the above, but evil/incompetent APA is surrendering to the “yes” voters, rolling over and taking the extras without fixing any of the TA, leading to a yes vote overall and we will be stuck in third place forever and the sky is falling.
07-20-2023 | 05:00 PM
#14
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Joined: May 2009
Posts: 584
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From: pilot
There are some hardcore “yes” voters claiming Isom added the above, but evil/incompetent APA is surrendering to the “no” voters, turning the extra offer down, driving a no vote overall or just cancelling it outright, and going to mediation in a recession and won’t do any better in the long run and the sky is falling.
Meanwhile, there are some hardcore “no” voters claiming Isom added the above, but evil/incompetent APA is surrendering to the “yes” voters, rolling over and taking the extras without fixing any of the TA, leading to a yes vote overall and we will be stuck in third place forever and the sky is falling.
Meanwhile, there are some hardcore “no” voters claiming Isom added the above, but evil/incompetent APA is surrendering to the “yes” voters, rolling over and taking the extras without fixing any of the TA, leading to a yes vote overall and we will be stuck in third place forever and the sky is falling.
Edit:
Ive tried being moderate and objective on the Line. It’s impossible. The never yes and always yes lose their ****.
07-21-2023 | 04:28 AM
#15
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Joined: Feb 2014
Posts: 166
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From: 320 FO
On the Line the always yes crowd rarely expose themselves and when they do, the NO'ers converge on them like someone dropped a honey covered caterpillar on an ant pile. Ruthless.
07-21-2023 | 05:45 AM
#16
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The always yes crowd somehow manages to be more obnoxious than the never no crowd. Same few folks constantly screaming to take whatever is offered.
07-21-2023 | 06:01 AM
#17
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From: B747 FO
07-21-2023 | 01:36 PM
#18
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From: B737
"Never no"? So always yes? Because that's what never no means. Maybe you meant "always no."
07-21-2023 | 03:02 PM
#19
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Fresh off the press:This afternoon, in response to our demands, management responded with a comprehensive proposal designed to bring closure to negotiations and maintain the membership voting schedule to the extent possible.
Management made proposals in many areas to include the following:
Management made proposals in many areas to include the following:
- Snap-up to match Delta/United pay rates after the Delta snap-up triggers
- Future wage increases accelerated to take effect every January 1
- Ratification bonus of 21% to fill the retro hole January-April 2023 based on longevity and seat on May 2, 2023
- 401(k) acceleration of increase to January 2024
- Increase in international override to $7/$5
- Increase in per diem to domestic $2.85/international $3.40
- Extended sick leave bank pre-loaded to 120 hours and accruing 4 hours per month in addition to previous accrual
- Medical freedom protections
- Max un-augmented duty day lesser of 13 hours or FAR 117 table B minus 30’
- Reserve “show, no go” pay increase to 5 hours
- 2-hour OG incentive for reserves volunteering to show and subsequently assigned prior to 1000 on day 1
- Hotel guarantees for reassignments outside original sequence footprint with no opportunity to commute to home of record that calendar day
- Maximum duty periods in sequence not to exceed number of calendar days
- Increase in life insurance coverage to $750,000 regardless of age
I think everyone owes our brothers and sisters over at United/ALPA a head nod in the terminals and maybe even a beer at the hotel bar.
07-21-2023 | 03:20 PM
#20
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Fresh off the press:This afternoon, in response to our demands, management responded with a comprehensive proposal designed to bring closure to negotiations and maintain the membership voting schedule to the extent possible.
Management made proposals in many areas to include the following:
Management made proposals in many areas to include the following:
- Snap-up to match Delta/United pay rates after the Delta snap-up triggers
- Future wage increases accelerated to take effect every January 1
- Ratification bonus of 21% to fill the retro hole January-April 2023 based on longevity and seat on May 2, 2023
- 401(k) acceleration of increase to January 2024
- Increase in international override to $7/$5
- Increase in per diem to domestic $2.85/international $3.40
- Extended sick leave bank pre-loaded to 120 hours and accruing 4 hours per month in addition to previous accrual
- Medical freedom protections
- Max un-augmented duty day lesser of 13 hours or FAR 117 table B minus 30’
- Reserve “show, no go” pay increase to 5 hours
- 2-hour OG incentive for reserves volunteering to show and subsequently assigned prior to 1000 on day 1
- Hotel guarantees for reassignments outside original sequence footprint with no opportunity to commute to home of record that calendar day
- Maximum duty periods in sequence not to exceed number of calendar days
- Increase in life insurance coverage to $750,000 regardless of age
I think everyone owes our brothers and sisters over at United/ALPA a head nod in the terminals and maybe even a beer at the hotel bar.
Put some lipstick on it and whisper “That’ll do pig. That’ll do.”
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