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11-15-2024 | 04:53 PM

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FWIW, a check-airman just told me the plan was to hire 1800 pilots in 2025.

But what did the van driver say?

11-16-2024 | 03:39 AM

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FWIW, a check-airman just told me the plan was to hire 1800 pilots in 2025.

I'm willing to bet we are around the 2000-2100 mark.
From here on till end of 2026 we have
38 neos (10 rest of this year and 2025)
40 max (17 in 2025)
15 787s (1 rest of the year and 10 in 2025)
To be delivered... Plan for now...

11-16-2024 | 03:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Zerosilver84

That’s hard to do when you take the summer and Christmas off.

11-16-2024 | 03:49 AM

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That’s hard to do when you take the summer and Christmas off.

Agreed. Just have to see the class sizes over the first few months. Think it's still doable.

11-16-2024 | 06:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Zerosilver84

I agree with your supposition but disagree with your delivery schedules. We'll be fortunate to get 5 87s and 8 Maxs. The French may do slightly better but my number is around 17 by the end of '25.

Keep your fingers crossed. I certainly want the growth but the manufacturers have been very clear that they will be nowhere close to their delivery schedules (half or so of the previously promised rates).

11-16-2024 | 07:19 AM

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Howdy y'all, not sure if fleet drops have happened recently, but for DFW, are new hires getting that out of training on either the Bus or 73? If not how long of a wait usually to get DFW Based?

11-16-2024 | 07:23 AM

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Howdy y'all, not sure if fleet drops have happened recently, but for DFW, are new hires getting that out of training on either the Bus or 73? If not how long of a wait usually to get DFW Based?

We haven’t hired in half a year so the numbers won’t be accurate until a few NH class drops following a vacancy bid. Guesstimate— less than six months in either NB, just depends when your class starts and the vacancy bid drops.

11-16-2024 | 07:25 AM

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Ok you can disagree with my schedule as it's not mine. It's what what posted during the most recent earnings. I pulled the numbers from the Sec filings this past quarter

11-16-2024 | 09:17 AM

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Ok you can disagree with my schedule as it's not mine. It's what what posted during the most recent earnings. I pulled the numbers from the Sec filings this past quarter

Yes, the entire situation is unfortunate. Many departments are basing their annual plans on delivery promises the manufacturers have publicly stated will not be met.

11-16-2024 | 10:46 AM

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If they were really going to hire 2000+ next year don't you think hiring would have already been ramped up full steam? Even with the backlog of CJOs they would need to start locking up quality canidates. This is the biggest indication so far on what hiring will be in 2025.