Airline routes ranked by revenue: AA last.
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It's a step, but insufficient. It's like a 500-pound person cutting cola from 5 to 3 liters. They aren't prioritizing the right hubs. Instead of focusing on JFK, LAX, MIA, and ORD, they seem to be adding flights in lower-yielding hubs like PHX, DFW, CLT, and PHL. Complaining about competition in those former major markets is weak; when your airline is bad, no one will choose it over four other options. Start by addressing inflight and airport customer service. I served by a gate agent with ugly arm tattoos at PHL the other day with an attitude equally as ugly.
We really are the Stellantis of the airlines and slowly moving towards being the Kia.
We really are the Stellantis of the airlines and slowly moving towards being the Kia.
All you armchair management guys always giving out management advice! Sure glad the finance and marketing departments don't write our manuals! Geez guys. Just move the metal cash the checks and enjoy the days off. This forum is exhausting.
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It's a step, but insufficient. It's like a 500-pound person cutting cola from 5 to 3 liters. They aren't prioritizing the right hubs. Instead of focusing on JFK, LAX, MIA, and ORD, they seem to be adding flights in lower-yielding hubs like PHX, DFW, CLT, and PHL. Complaining about competition in those former major markets is weak; when your airline is bad, no one will choose it over four other options. Start by addressing inflight and airport customer service. I served by a gate agent with ugly arm tattoos at PHL the other day with an attitude equally as ugly.
We really are the Stellantis of the airlines and slowly moving towards being the Kia.
We really are the Stellantis of the airlines and slowly moving towards being the Kia.
DFW and CLT are full until they add gates. PHL you are just going to have to deal with. JFK is Delta's European gateway, EWR is United's and we're stuck with PHL but the more RJs they slam in there the more wide-bodies we can fill up.
PHX is all we got out west so hopefully they do something with it.
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We bankruptcy yet?
All you armchair management guys always giving out management advice! Sure glad the finance and marketing departments don't write our manuals! Geez guys. Just move the metal cash the checks and enjoy the days off. This forum is exhausting.
Exactly.
All you armchair management guys always giving out management advice! Sure glad the finance and marketing departments don't write our manuals! Geez guys. Just move the metal cash the checks and enjoy the days off. This forum is exhausting.
Exactly.
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Im sure that not only does Mr Isom read this forum he really appreciates your input so keep up the good work. We'll be pulling ahead of Delter soon!
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Looks like we’ll incorporate a 777 on some LAX-JFK trips.
https://onemileatatime.com/news/american-777-jfk-lax/
https://onemileatatime.com/news/american-777-jfk-lax/
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This site displays domestic routes with the highest revenue for each airline.
https://weekly.visualapproach.io/p/u...mestic-top-ten
Delta and United have routes comparable to each other, with some reaching nearly half a billion. American is last in that comparison, and its best route is still outperformed by JetBlue. It's remarkable how far behind American is.
https://weekly.visualapproach.io/p/u...mestic-top-ten
Delta and United have routes comparable to each other, with some reaching nearly half a billion. American is last in that comparison, and its best route is still outperformed by JetBlue. It's remarkable how far behind American is.
Reestablishing a meaningful presence there will be exceedingly difficult, due to entrenched competition, slot constraints, and the erosion of brand relevance.
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What's truly eye-opening is that even for American, its most profitable routes are concentrated in New York and Los Angeles, two high-value markets the carrier has willingly retreated from in favor of lower-yielding endeavors.
Reestablishing a meaningful presence there will be exceedingly difficult, due to entrenched competition, slot constraints, and the erosion of brand relevance.
Reestablishing a meaningful presence there will be exceedingly difficult, due to entrenched competition, slot constraints, and the erosion of brand relevance.
high revenue does not equal high profit. We have no idea if JFK-LAX is high profit for any of the carriers. What we do know is the passenger costs out of those 2 airports are extremely high. Especially when compared to CLT and DFW. Like saying a popular pizza place in Times Square MUST be profitable because of the lines and prices, without knowing their rent bill
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Looks like we’ll incorporate a 777 on some LAX-JFK trips.
https://onemileatatime.com/news/american-777-jfk-lax/
https://onemileatatime.com/news/american-777-jfk-lax/
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not defending management decisions as a whole one iota but…:
high revenue does not equal high profit. We have no idea if JFK-LAX is high profit for any of the carriers. What we do know is the passenger costs out of those 2 airports are extremely high. Especially when compared to CLT and DFW. Like saying a popular pizza place in Times Square MUST be profitable because of the lines and prices, without knowing their rent bill
high revenue does not equal high profit. We have no idea if JFK-LAX is high profit for any of the carriers. What we do know is the passenger costs out of those 2 airports are extremely high. Especially when compared to CLT and DFW. Like saying a popular pizza place in Times Square MUST be profitable because of the lines and prices, without knowing their rent bill
Nobody’s denying JFK and LAX are expensive. But the idea that high cost kills profitability on high-revenue routes doesn’t hold up. Profit margins aren’t fixed, they scale. Airlines fight for JFK-LAX slots for a reason: because yield is strong, premium demand is high, and unit revenues often offset unit costs.
Delta has major hubs in high-cost markets like JFK and LAX. United centers much of its network around EWR, SFO, and ORD. Clearly, they believe those hubs are profit centers, not liabilities. Would anyone argue that our opposite focus on the Sunbelt has been a more successful strategy over time?
In American’s earnings call, they explicitly cited JFK-LAX and similar coastal hub flying were among their highest-margin operations. Delta and United run widebodies on these routes for a reason, and it’s not charity. (We did too, before scrapping them)
If a pizza joint in Times Square sells $7 slices and has a line out the door all day, odds are it’s doing just fine. High costs don’t erase profit when demand is strong and margins are priced accordingly.
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