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Old 05-17-2026 | 07:16 PM
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I’m at one of the AA regionals and right now our time to flow is around 5.5 years. I’m about at 2 years with this regional. Is it worth applying to AA outside of the flow? I’ve heard it’s a moot point since they don’t want to shoot themselves in the foot.
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Old 05-17-2026 | 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by jpilot97
I’m at one of the AA regionals and right now our time to flow is around 5.5 years. I’m about at 2 years with this regional. Is it worth applying to AA outside of the flow? I’ve heard it’s a moot point since they don’t want to shoot themselves in the foot.
It's rare, but it happens. It doesn't cost you anything to fill it out.
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Old Yesterday | 04:56 AM
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Originally Posted by jpilot97
I’m at one of the AA regionals and right now our time to flow is around 5.5 years. I’m about at 2 years with this regional. Is it worth applying to AA outside of the flow? I’ve heard it’s a moot point since they don’t want to shoot themselves in the foot.
Haven't flown with an FO hired outside of flow who didn't have a hire date of Spring 2024 or earlier. Used to happen a little more often during the hiring surge post COVID because AA was afraid of UA/DL pouching quality pilots from our WOs. Now that hiring has slowed industry wide there is a larger pool of quality applicants so they are a lot more strict about not hiring outside of flow. There are probably still a few exceptions but not like before. Have you upgraded yet or have any TPIC from a previous job? Doesn't hurt to apply but not something you need to keep hitting refresh on your email.
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Old Yesterday | 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by AAdvocate
Haven't flown with an FO hired outside of flow who didn't have a hire date of Spring 2024 or earlier. Used to happen a little more often during the hiring surge post COVID because AA was afraid of UA/DL pouching quality pilots from our WOs. Now that hiring has slowed industry wide there is a larger pool of quality applicants so they are a lot more strict about not hiring outside of flow. There are probably still a few exceptions but not like before. Have you upgraded yet or have any TPIC from a previous job? Doesn't hurt to apply but not something you need to keep hitting refresh on your email.
I should be in an upgrade class by September or October. I figured it was unlikely. But like you said, it doesn’t hurt to fill it out and see what happens. My worry is the flow time going back up to 6 or 7 years. Just trying to weigh my options here.
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Old Yesterday | 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by jpilot97
I should be in an upgrade class by September or October. I figured it was unlikely. But like you said, it doesn’t hurt to fill it out and see what happens. My worry is the flow time going back up to 6 or 7 years. Just trying to weigh my options here.
Like you said, can’t hurt to try, but if you’re relatively low time without turbine PIC combined with almost 2000 Spirit pilots currently looking for a new job the odds are not great.
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Old Yesterday | 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Judge Smails
Like you said, can’t hurt to try, but if you’re relatively low time without turbine PIC combined with almost 2000 Spirit pilots currently looking for a new job the odds are not great.
It is what it is.
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