What’s even more ridiculous is the fact that you have check airman on the widebodies who can’t even hold the seat. They’re in a seat they can’t hold and fly the best trips. Amazing scam.

Can’t speak for Delta, but the trips themselves are about the same at United, just minus long sits and long duties (which in cases were caused by the long sits). We don’t have 5 day NB trips at United, though.

and they get paid to do it at NB rates….

They, as a whole got better. There were still some crap trips but they now at least paid better.

My high score is 8 hours additional on a 2 day between CARVE (release between 0000 and 0159, 2 hours) SIT and EDP pay.

I've had a 31 hour 2 day between soft pays and reroute.

The only thing I wonder is how AA would have enough check pilots for the WB when the average CA age is over 62?

I don’t know a solution, but I feel like having a highly inexperienced check pilot cadre vs ckps who can get 10+ years on the equipment is a trade off. Plus for many WB CAs, they want to coast out their final year or two not teaching IOE or going to the sim but enjoying aperol spritz’s in Barcelona. Can’t blame them.

I realize many of the WB CAs were WB FOs but how many just rode FB until their currency expired, etc?

Like I said I don’t know how to fix it, but I don’t see how they could have a full cadre of CKPs from the pool of existing WB CAs. Some? Definitely. All? I’m not sure.

they get paid narrow body rates? Didn't know. They do get a considerable override for being a ckp though, right?

Ok fine, I'll do it. I'll be a WB check pilot for NB pay. That's the AA way, undercut your peers. Put a 1 minute notification period on DOTC so you get the 150% premium, if that doesn't work, just pick it up for OG or MU.

I think we're getting sidetracked here. Our operation is so inefficient, the company needs us all to be working 10+ hour days with >2 sits so we can all be "ready" or "hot" or "airport" reserves without actually putting that in the contract. Even better when your inbound plane is delayed during your 2 hour sit extending your day to now 12-14 hours for just a pittance of extra sit pay. Our on time/performance numbers are atrocious so tell me why we are doing this again? Will aggressive pick up solve some of these scheduling inefficiencies? Find out on the next episode of Dragon Ball Z.

You bring up the pertinent points of why the EDP is critical (long duty days, late inbounds regularly at DFW/ORD/CLT, pitiful sit time rig), but APA and their shills will tell you "it's bad, no 1:1 pay over 10 hours." EDP rig at the very least would minimize scheduled sits at CLT/ORD/DFW, not to mention bank nice $ when delays happen.

Wow how did you know last week my 2.5 hr sit turned into 5 hrs?

Also the sit time gets absorbed into reserve guarantee so since I also have cqt this month, there is no way I can break guarantee this month so that sit time I had to endure didn't actually cost the company anything and I see no financial benefit for it.

Another way to **** reserves. Pull all the soft pay and shove apas phallus in my . ..