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RippinClapBombs 04-10-2026 03:50 AM


Originally Posted by ThumbsUp (Post 4021217)
When we added long duty day (<10 hours) and long sit (>2 hours) add pay at United, both long duty and long sits both became rather rare within a few bid periods.

Nah that could never happen. See what happens if you implement those limitations is “wAcK a MoLe” is initiated and without any evidence whatever other than “tRuSt Me BrO” our pairings would only decline further.

khergan 04-10-2026 05:08 AM


Originally Posted by RippinClapBombs (Post 4021726)
You were hired at United before the new contract?

Yes, obviously.

I know you like to play the butthurt snarky AA guy on here, but there's a reason quite a few DAL/UA guys are telling you why EDP and sit made a difference.

There's not some secret cabal of APC people trying to lie. Those two provisions genuinely changed pairings for the better. The long sits and double duty days all but vanished in a matter of a month or two.

RippinClapBombs 04-10-2026 05:49 AM


Originally Posted by khergan (Post 4021738)
Yes, obviously.

I know you like to play the butthurt snarky AA guy on here, but there's a reason quite a few DAL/UA guys are telling you why EDP and sit made a difference.

There's not some secret cabal of APC people trying to lie. Those two provisions genuinely changed pairings for the better. The long sits and double duty days all but vanished in a matter of a month or two.

First, that was an honest question. Second, I’ve been one the biggest advocates for EDP. Third, you’re an idiot, but I shouldn’t be surprised by the aggressive response. You have several years worth of confrontational posts with just about everyone.

ps2sunvalley 04-10-2026 05:54 AM


Originally Posted by rockelino (Post 4021660)
Actually - no, sit pay is above guarantee (you get it even if you don't break 73/76 hr).

Do I need to show you my pay stubs? I don't have my iPad in front of me, but I'm pretty sure it's in the compass docs on the topic of reserve. If you do not break guarantee the sit pay is absorbed. Show-no-go pay is also absorbed.

khergan 04-10-2026 06:12 AM


Originally Posted by RippinClapBombs (Post 4021748)
First, that was an honest question. Second, I’ve been one the biggest advocates for EDP. Third, you’re an idiot, but I shouldn’t be surprised by the aggressive response. You have several years worth of confrontational posts with just about everyone.

Pot, meet kettle. Just two posts ago, you used reddit spelling to imply that there is no way your guy's pairings could get better after multiple people told you that they absolutely could. All of those posts, including mine, were trying to relay that changes in our soft pay rules made huge differences in QoL for the pilots.

But hey, all good man. Keep being butthurt and snarky, I'm sure it'll work out for you one day.

RippinClapBombs 04-10-2026 06:14 AM


Originally Posted by khergan (Post 4021756)
Pot, meet kettle. Just two posts ago, you used reddit spelling to imply that there is no way your guy's pairings could get better after multiple people told you that they absolutely could. All of those posts, including mine, were trying to relay that changes in our soft pay rules made huge differences in QoL for the pilots.

But hey, all good man. Keep being butthurt and snarky, I'm sure it'll work out for you one day.

You’re embarrassing yourself now. You might want to read that post again—clearly you have comprehension issues. This is what happens when you assume everything as confrontational. I think you need to take your own advice and go touch some grass.


khergan 04-10-2026 06:18 AM


Originally Posted by RippinClapBombs (Post 4021757)
You’re embarrassing yourself now.

That's all you have? Lol.

AAdvocate 04-10-2026 06:29 AM


Originally Posted by anthony210 (Post 4021704)
This is incorrect. Sit Pay goes above any guarantee. If it did not in your case you should contact contract compliance and submit a direct connect. Reserve guarantee absolutely does NOT get reduced when they add SIT pay in.

Lot of **** to ***** about in our contract but lets not make **** up.

No Sir, you are incorrect and making stuff up. YourUnion caved on this issue with the company and SIT for reserves is in fact NOT above guarantee. Contact your representative for more details.

RippinClapBombs 04-10-2026 06:29 AM


Originally Posted by khergan (Post 4021761)
That's all you have? Lol.

I’ll say a prayer for your significant other.

ClncClarence 04-10-2026 07:15 AM


Originally Posted by ps2sunvalley (Post 4021752)
Do I need to show you my pay stubs? I don't have my iPad in front of me, but I'm pretty sure it's in the compass docs on the topic of reserve. If you do not break guarantee the sit pay is absorbed. Show-no-go pay is also absorbed.

You’re completely wrong on both of these. I just looked at a reserve month from last year where my PROJ was 53:00 and I got paid above guarantee for both sit time and show no-go.


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