The Alarming Amount of Duty Periods >10 hours
04-10-2026 | 06:31 PM
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See that's the great thing about it, no need. We just stop using it and go back to DOTC. Problem solved.
04-10-2026 | 06:34 PM
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Which is fine but you will never get everybody to stop using it. The company would need to shut it off and if the company is starting to see APU work to their benefit they are going to ask for something in return to shut it off. Unlike Delta and United, our Union has shown us that we cannot make any significant gains in QOL provisions without giving something up.
04-11-2026 | 02:50 AM
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Which is fine but you will never get everybody to stop using it. The company would need to shut it off and if the company is starting to see APU work to their benefit they are going to ask for something in return to shut it off. Unlike Delta and United, our Union has shown us that we cannot make any significant gains in QOL provisions without giving something up.
Outside DOTC will still churn plenty, normal ops, and the more senior ballot wins out for the fly out, DH home 1-1s.
I don't think senior FOs will use APU, that hasn't really done anything yet, as a factor to upgrade; I know I sure as heck won't be.
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04-11-2026 | 05:05 AM
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From: AB FO
04-11-2026 | 05:15 AM
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Nah, it’s now going to make the process of IMAXing more fatiguing for the senior. They’ll now have to fly their awarded trips more often and pick up the low soft time pairings in TTS. In other words, they’re going to be required to fly the pairings that were negotiated in section 6 like everyone else.
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04-11-2026 | 05:19 AM
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Nah, it’s made the process more fatiguing for the senior. They’ll now have to fly their awarded trips more often and pick up the low soft time pairings in TTS. In other words, they’re going to be required to fly the pairings that’s were negotiated in section 6 like everyone else.
04-11-2026 | 05:29 AM
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Yup, possibly. As someone who utilizes TTS to trade most of my awarded pairings in PBS, this could be a blessing in disguise. We need better pairings limitations, everyone knows it.
04-13-2026 | 04:18 AM
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I don’t know if the top 10% get any special treatment from APA. The whole trips blocked for OE debacle on the WB has screwed the DFW 787/777 pilots for years. You could be top 1% seniority and not be able to hold the best trips during a particular month because nearly all of them are blocked for OE. Then if they decide they don’t need a trip they dump it into open time and it gets covered by a relatively junior reserve.
APA not doing anything about the company's refusal is a separate issue
04-13-2026 | 05:08 AM
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Yup. Many wanted this here. APA knew better. Now going into negotiations the company now has a better reason to high cost this provision.
04-13-2026 | 05:50 AM
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The scheduling committee has enormous power at APA.
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