Stop playing the VICTIM CARD
12-01-2011, 05:05 AM
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Stop playing the VICTIM CARD
Stop playing the VICTIM CARD
90% of the posts on this form is constant whining!
10,000 pilots are looking at a substantial pay cut.
Some of you guys have law degrees, MBA and other Masters degrees so why don’t find a few leaders in your group and come up with your own bankruptcy buyout plan where the pilots takeover the airline. There’s plenty of capital in the world to do it.
Step up and take some positive action.
90% of the posts on this form is constant whining!
10,000 pilots are looking at a substantial pay cut.
Some of you guys have law degrees, MBA and other Masters degrees so why don’t find a few leaders in your group and come up with your own bankruptcy buyout plan where the pilots takeover the airline. There’s plenty of capital in the world to do it.
Step up and take some positive action.
12-01-2011, 05:59 AM
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Originally Posted by AirbusA320
Stop playing the VICTIM CARD
90% of the posts on this form is constant whining!
10,000 pilots are looking at a substantial pay cut.
Some of you guys have law degrees, MBA and other Masters degrees so why don’t find a few leaders in your group and come up with your own bankruptcy buyout plan where the pilots takeover the airline. There’s plenty of capital in the world to do it.
Step up and take some positive action.
90% of the posts on this form is constant whining!
10,000 pilots are looking at a substantial pay cut.
Some of you guys have law degrees, MBA and other Masters degrees so why don’t find a few leaders in your group and come up with your own bankruptcy buyout plan where the pilots takeover the airline. There’s plenty of capital in the world to do it.
Step up and take some positive action.
12-01-2011, 06:15 AM
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Originally Posted by AirbusA320
...find a few leaders in your group and come up with your own bankruptcy buyout plan where the pilots takeover the airline...
Pilots are good at managing the procedure-driven operation of airplanes...period. Your suggestion is a Chapter 7 (liquidation) just waiting to happen.
12-01-2011, 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by AirbusA320
Stop playing the VICTIM CARD
90% of the posts on this form is constant whining!
10,000 pilots are looking at a substantial pay cut.
Some of you guys have law degrees, MBA and other Masters degrees so why don’t find a few leaders in your group and come up with your own bankruptcy buyout plan where the pilots takeover the airline. There’s plenty of capital in the world to do it.
Step up and take some positive action.
90% of the posts on this form is constant whining!
10,000 pilots are looking at a substantial pay cut.
Some of you guys have law degrees, MBA and other Masters degrees so why don’t find a few leaders in your group and come up with your own bankruptcy buyout plan where the pilots takeover the airline. There’s plenty of capital in the world to do it.
Step up and take some positive action.
As I understand it, the esop rules had changed and their plan was better than the UAL ESOP but they could not get any takers and it faded away. Maybe someone in the know could comment on it.
CAL pilots tried an ESOP When Frank Lorenzo tried to acquire CAL but the state of CA approved Franks plan after he PROMISED not to move the corporation out of the state of CA. I think it only lasted 6 weeks in CA before he moved it to the same state that used prison laborers to build the state capital instead of using stone masons.
Besides, Wall Street will never let the peasants own an airline. Capitalism is for the elite to privatize the gains and then socialize the losses. Corporate Welfare, only in Amerika (or maybe China and USSR too).
Craig
12-01-2011, 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Old UCAL CA
'Been there, seen that...don't do it under any circumstances.
Pilots are good at managing the procedure-driven operation of airplanes...period. Your suggestion is a Chapter 7 (liquidation) just waiting to happen.
Pilots are good at managing the procedure-driven operation of airplanes...period. Your suggestion is a Chapter 7 (liquidation) just waiting to happen.
12-01-2011, 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Old UCAL CA
'Been there, seen that...don't do it under any circumstances.
Pilots are good at managing the procedure-driven operation of airplanes...period. Your suggestion is a Chapter 7 (liquidation) just waiting to happen.
Pilots are good at managing the procedure-driven operation of airplanes...period. Your suggestion is a Chapter 7 (liquidation) just waiting to happen.
Airlines are a Ponzi Scheme that uses shell game accounting practices to extract the wealth from its employees and common stock share holders to benefit the banks that loan the airline the money.
Craig
12-01-2011, 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by cgull
...All you need to do is get the pilots to run the operations side of the house and then outsource the menial management tasks of making copies and getting coffee to Kelly Girls.
Airlines are a Ponzi Scheme that uses shell game accounting practices to extract the wealth from its employees and common stock share holders to benefit the banks that loan the airline the money.
Craig
Airlines are a Ponzi Scheme that uses shell game accounting practices to extract the wealth from its employees and common stock share holders to benefit the banks that loan the airline the money.
Craig
(United has a pilot running flight operations.....)
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