Wiskey Driver

Ok now having said all that take off your pilot uniform and put on a business suit! JFK although to a PILOT looks like a mecca DCA is a huge money maker all on its own. Where JFK stagnates DCA does not. What can not be denied is the international presence of JFK but then again every other airline sees this as well. Philly is a just a hop skip and a jump from JFK so it can be done.

Greed is what kills pilots careers and just a quick look at the APA track record in this regard will show this. No need to go into it because we all know the story. Then there is USEAST, who asked for a process, got that process then refused to honor it. So what has this produced? The undeniable feeling of mistrust and hatred toward our fellow pilots. I can say without a doubt that I can not stand the east pilots and have zero respect for them, the same as I would for any lying cheat. I will not support jumpseat denials as that has no place in the industry. I do however limit my conversation with them as I would any scab. Yes I know, they never crossed a picket line thus many believe they are not true scabs but what they have done is far worse.

The rest of the industry sees the east west fight as only the arbitration however there is far more that you dont know! The refusing to deal with west grievances, the rigging of elections, YES THEY DID THAT!!! The shutting out of west elected personal from their so called union meetings and then calling the police to have us removed from a process for which we pay extortion dues to! The list goes on and on, so you can see why my hatred runs far and deep.

The hope I have is that they can some how place this whole situation in position where we can sue them and collect monies. Nothing would give me more pleasure than the bankrupt usapa jointly and severally.

WD at AWA

R57 relay

This is the kind of guy I was talking about above. There are some just like him on the east, but they are in the minority.

Just imagine if we could focus this on management instead of each other.

R57 relay

See your PM.

nwa757

This letter is an important follow up to describe the motive behind this youtube message. Dont follow the fear mongering from random perspectives on this board, follow official sources.

http://aviationblog.dallasnews.com/2012/12/the-pilots-union-at-american-airlines-stressed-the-importance-of-reaching-a-transitional-agreement-regarding-a-possible-merger.html

cactiboss

Well they are in the majority on the west. Most west pilots are engaged and know that the only way out is to remove the east majority.

R57 relay

I don't think so. No west pilot I know is like you or wisky. But hey, keep on trying to convince the AA pilots that their worst fears are correct. Moron. An AA merger is the fastest way to what you want.

cactiboss

So you are saying your west friends don't despise usapa and want to see it destroyed asap? I call bullshiite.

R57 relay

No, they don't. The have the brains to know that USAPA is not a human entity and thus not worthy of hate. What they don't like are certain individuals within USAPA and the east pilot group that they feel have acted unethically. They are also smart enough to know that not all east pilots feel the same way about some USAPA leaders actions, and that some are unaware of some of those actions. Instead of taking a shotgun "I hate you guys!" approach, they give the individual the benefit of the doubt. They realize that USAPA is the legally elected bargaining agent and have tried to work from within, while standing firm about their rights. THEY DON'T WHINE. We can set around with some cold beverages, argue until the empties pile up and leave patting each other on the back. It's why I like them and respect them, unlike the minority on both sides.

A merger with AA will see the end of USAPA, no doubt about that.

cactiboss

So your west friends don't want to see usapa gone ASAP? I don't believe u for a sec.

Enterprise

NYC is one of, if not THE most important cities in a passenger network. Passenger yields surpass DCA. If memory serves me correctly, the most lucrative yield route on the planet is NYC-LHR. We now have a $1.3 BILLION dollar investment sitting there operating at about half capacity because of the poor decisions of the dunderheads that ran AA into bankruptcy.

It does OK, but there are still about a dozen cities ahead of it.

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What are connecting passengers supposed to do? Hop in a rental car and drive to JFK?

This is awesome. You see, I have never been educated on this point, so here is your opportunity. Please educate all of us on "APA's track record" and examples of APA "greed." Thanks.