Is that dense thing an act?

They would be fine seeing USAPA go away. It would take away a lot of issues. But, they also realize that if some of the problem children migrate to APA, they could be a problem too. I hate to break this to you, but there have been some pilots during APA's history that weren't too happy with them either.

I bet you can't produce a west pilot that doesn't absolutely despise usapa. It should tell you something that knowing apa history the west is willing to jump out of the pan and into the fire to get away from the east.

Damn, I am agreeing with you again! This must stop!

I would like to offer some additional points. The combined carrier would be equal to UCAL and Delta. The hubs are to stay according to Parker's plan but you will see flying shifted around to wherever more lucrative flying occurs. We have seen that in our merger where LAS closed due to a big increase in costs and flying was added out of CLT and PHL with the closure of LGA and BOS.

Things will change after the merger but they will change for the better. The combined carrier will be a lot stronger and both sides going in have aircraft orders to take. Hortons plan would have the AA pilots stagnate, since lots of those "exciting new orders" will go to replace aging maddogs and 757s. And the increase in code share and RJs will just continue the stagnation, except for the attrition as age 65 kicks in. I have a strong belief that native AA pilots will do well in a SLI because of the larger widebody fleet and the upside for a merger is what drives the APA leadership.

Mike, since r57 seems to respect your opinion, could you give me your thoughts on a couple of things? I'll ask and you can answer if you feel like it.

A. In your opinion, what is the percentage of west pilots that despise usapa and want to see it destroyed?

Looks like APA wants the SLI done first or they will block the merger...

AMR Union Says Lack of Accord Threatens Merger in Bankruptcy - Bloomberg

It is the opposite of that.

Every time I give you the benefit of a doubt, you show me it isn't a ruse. Do you have a reading comprehension problem. Here is a belated Christmas present to all. I won't respond publicly to your posts. Want to chat? PM me.

Who cares about USAPA?

USAPA will be gone in less than a year... maybe 6 months if this merger progressed in a timely manor. Lets work towards a merger.

Have faith... DFR lawsuits will be filed post merger/SLI—No more infighting.

2013 could be a good year for everyone—Cheers. :)

Exactly. Read here:

http://aviationblog.dallasnews.com/2012/12/the-pilots-union-at-american-airlines-stressed-the-importance-of-reaching-a-transitional-agreement-regarding-a-possible-merger.html

The APA is doing the only smart thing, push sli to a neutral process so they can't be sued later (alpa does it this way). This of course is something the law breaking east pilots can't comprehend.