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flybywire44 12-28-2012 05:04 PM

I challenge you folks to contemplate the cost benefit of discussing a past that you have no control over verses an overwhelmingly positive opportunity that would change your lives in an overwhelmingly positive manor.

Decisions...decisions.

cactiboss 12-28-2012 05:10 PM


Originally Posted by flybywire44 (Post 1319862)
I challenge you folks to contemplate the cost benefit of discussing a past that you have no control over verses an overwhelmingly positive opportunity that would change your lives in an overwhelmingly positive manor.

Decisions...decisions.

We are discussing the future, a future where the east is no longer in charge and usapa is destroyed is indeed a positive move.

R57 relay 12-28-2012 05:12 PM


Originally Posted by flybywire44 (Post 1319862)
I challenge you folks to contemplate the cost benefit of discussing a past that you have no control over verses an overwhelmingly positive opportunity that would change your lives in an overwhelmingly positive manor.

Decisions...decisions.

My New Years wish is that wiser folks than some of those on web boards are working hard in Dallas. Sure would be nice to see a win-win.

R57 relay 12-28-2012 05:15 PM


Originally Posted by Wiskey Driver (Post 1319858)
Well if you did and that still remains to be seen then you realize that usapa acted with and continues to act with malice toward west pilots. Their overall behavior reeks of criminal intent. Holding an election where west pilots win the seats and because usapa dont like that they invalidate the election in order to put east only in the positions. Usapa/the east can kiss my entire a$$ as they are the lowest form of scab there is. They destroy a union for east only gratification.

WD at AWA

It does not remain to be seen. I have the cancelled check. While some west pilots were throwing them under the bus or using them as fodder, I was trying very hard to have the suit dropped.

You see WD, some of us try to see the truth and do what is right. Even if we are east of the Mississippi.

Wiskey Driver 12-28-2012 05:35 PM


Originally Posted by R57 relay (Post 1319870)
It does not remain to be seen. I have the cancelled check. While some west pilots were throwing them under the bus or using them as fodder, I was trying very hard to have the suit dropped.

You see WD, some of us try to see the truth and do what is right. Even if we are east of the Mississippi.

Ok I tell you what, you want the world the know that the east pilots are saints and that the events of the past 4 plus years have been figments of our imagination. Post your cancelled check for all to see with the bank stamp showing paid!!! Then I will believe you. I know the real you as I get them in my the pvt messages from you telling me to go fk myself! So let the real you stand up and take a bow.

WD at AWA

R57 relay 12-28-2012 05:39 PM


Originally Posted by Wiskey Driver (Post 1319889)
Ok I tell you what, you want the world the know that the east pilots are saints and that the events of the past 4 plus years have been figments of our imagination. Post your cancelled check for all to see with the bank stamp showing paid!!! Then I will believe you. I know the real you as I get them in my the pvt messages from you telling me to go fk myself! So let the real you stand up and take a bow.

WD at AWA

Good luck there scooter.

Tomahawk58 12-28-2012 05:45 PM

This thread is a textbook case of why Bob Crandall words are spot on. No sooner than the dust settles on the new and improved contract for US, we'll be fighting this vitriolic battle for the rest of our careers. While management teams and CEOs come and go, seniority is forever! To not have a solid seniority plan in place before a merger take place is quite foolhardy. I also think its instructive that 99 plus percent of respondents on this thread are US pilots. Who really stands to gain the most here, surely it's not the AA pilots! At best, you are talking incremental improvements, but at a steep cost.

Typically, those championing arbitration feel they're in the stronger position. Of course time will tell.

This feels like a line from Dirty Harry - "do you feel lucky". Here's a question I have, is the APA leadership willing to put this to the membership for vote?!?!

R57 relay 12-28-2012 05:49 PM


Originally Posted by Tomahawk58 (Post 1319893)
This thread is a textbook case of why Bob Crandall words are spot on. No sooner than the dust settles on the new and improved contract for US, we'll be fighting this vitriolic battle for the rest of our careers. While management teams and CEOs come and go, seniority is forever! To not have a solid seniority plan in place before a merger take place is quite foolhardy. I also think its instructive that 99 plus percent of respondents on this thread are US pilots. Who really stands to gain the most here, surely it's not the AA pilots! At best, you are talking incremental improvements, but at a steep cost.

Typically, those championing arbitration feel they're in the stronger position. Of course time will tell.

This feels like a line from Dirty Harry - "do you feel lucky". Here's a question I have, is the APA leadership willing to put this to the membership for vote?!?!

You have some valid points. Now. Where do TWA pilots stand in this and how much effect will they have on things. They are much like US and AWA pilots. This is so far beyond SLI it's not funny.

Wiskey Driver 12-28-2012 05:51 PM

This is who he really is and it represents the general way we are treated by the east. Notice all the personal attacks ie name calling. THIS IS WHAT WE PUT UP WITH FROM THE EAST.

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You are ****ing right I contributed to them. I supported them while some of your own turned their back on them. I offered to do more and was told by David Braid to "drop it". You are the worst kind of ignorant SOB. Go **** yourself.

(ME) Why so hostile and how do you know Im not Dave?? Go fk myself come on is that the best you can do? Honestly.

Well, I thought Dave was smarter than you, even with the refused offer. If you are Dave the sentiment stands. I think you are a 2004 hire.

(ME) You are free to think as you wish.

Hey **** for brains, I'll tell you what. You go ask David if any pilots tried to help with the C18. Ask him if anyone knew a "celebrity" that you guys hate, and tried to get him to help. Ask him what he said and get back to me.

R57 relay 12-28-2012 05:58 PM

American pilots. Has the above not shown you that you have absolutely nothing to fear from a US/AA merger?


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