Originally Posted by R57 relay
(Post 1319902)
American pilots. Has the above not shown you that you have absolutely nothing to fear from a US/AA merger?
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Originally Posted by Tomahawk58
(Post 1319913)
All the more reason to get it ironed out before hand, if as you say, the AA pilots have nothing to fear!
Thing is, I see AA pilots in the driver's seat. US pilots are too busy fighting 5 year old fights. We have the majority of retirements for the next few years. Who will benefit from them? AA has the bulk of WB and the entire fleet. Doug Parker has absolutely no allegiance to east or west US. Who will benefit? Horton only wants to see a payout for him and his cronies. Parker only wants to see a payout for him and his cronies and his ego. Which will serve the AA pilots better? Pay Horton to remain the 3rd largest network carrier or pay Parker to be #1? You need not be worried about US or a SLI. Do your really think an independent AA can GROW to the size of DL? I wish for a day when there are 3 major network carriers, with pilots that want to be returned to a worthy position. Working together instead of against. |
DAL/NWA pilots didn't need to get it ironed out before hand. They handled it like professional adults, after they realized how much they had to gain with the merger.
Keep in mind, this potential merger is bigger than any one individual, bigger than the east/west drama, it is about the collective whole 12000+ pilots. 12000+ are stronger than three pilot groups arguing amongst themselves. For this merger will work out for everyone in the end, I recommend stopping infighting and lets post and act like professionals. APA and USAPA reps are working day and night to make this work, cowboy posts on this forum won't help the cause. |
Originally Posted by nwa757
(Post 1319992)
DAL/NWA pilots didn't need to get it ironed out before hand. They handled it like professional adults, after they realized how much they had to gain with the merger.
Keep in mind, this potential merger is bigger than any one individual, bigger than the east/west drama, it is about the collective whole 12000+ pilots. 12000+ are stronger than three pilot groups arguing amongst themselves. For this merger will work out for everyone in the end, I recommend stopping infighting and lets post and act like professionals. APA and USAPA reps are working day and night to make this work, cowboy posts on this forum won't help the cause. WD at AWA |
Originally Posted by nwa757
(Post 1319992)
DAL/NWA pilots didn't need to get it ironed out before hand. They handled it like professional adults, after they realized how much they had to gain with the merger.
Keep in mind, this potential merger is bigger than any one individual, bigger than the east/west drama, it is about the collective whole 12000+ pilots. 12000+ are stronger than three pilot groups arguing amongst themselves. For this merger will work out for everyone in the end, I recommend stopping infighting and lets post and act like professionals. APA and USAPA reps are working day and night to make this work, cowboy posts on this forum won't help the cause. "Feel sorry for me because la la la. East pilots are all evil la la la. West pilots got handed the world la la la. AMR is a super-duper airline that doesn't need anyone la la la" I need to break my addiction to this site. |
Originally Posted by nwa757
(Post 1319992)
DAL/NWA pilots didn't need to get it ironed out before hand. They handled it like professional adults, after they realized how much they had to gain with the merger.
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Originally Posted by cactiboss
(Post 1319766)
It is the opposite of that.
American pilots say deal with US Airways pilots required for pre-exit mergerDecember 28, 2012 The pilots union at American Airlines said it needs to have a seniority integration agreement with counterparts at US Airways if the two airlines are realistically going to start a merger process before American emerges from Chapter 11 protection, Bloomberg reported. The story quoted Allied Pilots Association head Keith Wilson as saying that if a deal isn’t reached “in the very near future, in all likelihood there will be no merger before American Airlines exits restructuring,” quoting a message on the union website. |
Originally Posted by Enterprise
(Post 1320030)
Please spell out, in detail, what and how much AA pilots will "gain" by merging with US Airways.
-Stability of working for a global carrier. -Building of the world's largest and most efficient A319/20/21 fleet. -More routes, efficient trips with synergies. Highly profitable shuttle system. -More base choices after fences come down. ...essentially all the benefits that CAL/UAL and NWA/DAL pilots are benefiting from today, while AA pilots are currently not. These are broad benefits, the details you request are of course being figured out in the 4 party agreement under the NDA currently. |
as a "business model" I think US Air/AA stands a better chance merged together to compete with everyone else than US Air and AA as non-merged, separate, companies.
Now, what pilot group benefits, what captain goes to what equipment, etc etc, I don't think anybody can crystal ball that. |
Originally Posted by Enterprise
(Post 1320030)
Please spell out, in detail, what and how much AA pilots will "gain" by merging with US Airways.
I know a lot of folks are worried about the east/west mess, but that is well known and people know it has to be dealt with. SLI? Base realignment? Just curious, I think it wise to question these things. It always seems that it the thing you don't see coming that gets you. |
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