USAPA Board Approves MOU
01-27-2013, 03:32 PM
#431
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Originally Posted by lolwut
Do these guys already have seniority numbers? I can't remember the story involving them. Will the end up senior to active US pilots? That could be the answer as to if USAPA cares or not.
01-27-2013, 07:07 PM
#433
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Negative, those guys have #s but they don't start coming until they start hiring of the street. And when they come they only thing they bring is vacation and fly benefits (I think). I know a couple of guys waiting they're hoping for the summer.
01-28-2013, 04:40 AM
#434
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Originally Posted by flyfast15
Negative, those guys have #s but they don't start coming until they start hiring of the street. And when they come they only thing they bring is vacation and fly benefits (I think). I know a couple of guys waiting they're hoping for the summer.
The 240 guys that have numbers come over when their number comes up on the recall and should be flowing over by march.
The 824 come over when AA begins hiring they don't have numbers and are not on the list. Also eagle doesn't have to release more than 20/month. The 824 isn't specific to any one pilot. If someone doesn't want to go to AA that passes the chance to another eagle pilot. The 240 is specific to a pilot and if they don't want to go to AA that opportunity is gone for good.
01-28-2013, 07:20 AM
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I think the ones your talking about came last year when they won an arbitration. The rest have numbers but don't come over until everybody is recalled and hiring of the street starts. That's what my bud told me he's one of them, he's hoping to start by late summer. Any eagle guys want to chime in?
01-29-2013, 12:43 AM
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Originally Posted by flyfast15
I think the ones your talking about came last year when they won an arbitration. The rest have numbers but don't come over until everybody is recalled and hiring of the street starts. That's what my bud told me he's one of them, he's hoping to start by late summer. Any eagle guys want to chime in?
*824 pilots go 1 for 1 with new hires.
*"protected pilots" (anyone else on the list before OCT 11, 2011) go 1 for 2 with new hires. Unless Eagle is furloughing- then 1 for 1.
01-29-2013, 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Errbus
Wow so USAirways pilots who successfully gained employment with mainline could end up junior to people flying RJs today? Hopefully that is addressed by the unions.
01-29-2013, 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Errbus
Wow so USAirways pilots who successfully gained employment with mainline could end up junior to people flying RJs today? Hopefully that is addressed by the unions.
01-29-2013, 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by RyanP
*Remaining 235 with SENIORITY #'s, go in seniority order, 91 of them are mixed in with the recalls and the rest are on the bottom of the list. All of these have the right to go before any new hire.
*824 pilots go 1 for 1 with new hires.
*"protected pilots" (anyone else on the list before OCT 11, 2011) go 1 for 2 with new hires. Unless Eagle is furloughing- then 1 for 1.
*824 pilots go 1 for 1 with new hires.
*"protected pilots" (anyone else on the list before OCT 11, 2011) go 1 for 2 with new hires. Unless Eagle is furloughing- then 1 for 1.
01-29-2013, 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by eaglefly
The 824 has a cap of 20/month unless AE wants to release more (they never did in the past). That means if its true that AA ramps up hiring in the fall to 70-80/month, Eagle pilots could go 1 for 4. All pilots outside the 824 (or who have AA numbers already) have no contractual protection nor certainty of flowing to AA and I wouldn't count on that.
So it sounds like ToHO will stay atop the food chain, so we will see the US Air boyzz as well as keep ToHo... I got my popcorn ready, as well as my unemployment paperwork before you say anything!
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