I'll bet you used to demand to "measure" yourself as a young boy against other neighborhood boys. Most males outgrow that by about 13 or so. :cool: Apparently some don't.

At any rate, you seem quite angry. Falling back on the "mines bigger than yours" position in any discussion or debate is a sign of weakness and a veiled concession of failure. Even though I expected little else from you, it was humorous.

Not quite..I did/do respect those that have EARNED their positions....

20 plus years of hard work bringing in money to the parent corporation BEFORE I arrived here at this division meets that criteria. Completing all training in the "footprint" and living up to all expectations SINCE then meets that criteria.

Exactly what have you done for AMR/AA ?

Answer: Jack Squat.

To all at AA and outside looking in with curiosity, lets step back and take note of what my comments have revealed. Again, ALL I did was discuss the likelihood of fences and what has resulted ?

Anger, hostility and attack including the use of terms like "ass" and "punk". Has a SINGLE negative comment come from a westie ?

Nope. Not one.

Considering even WITH fences, Easties will suffer little and Westies would more, is it just a coincidence ALL the attack over a simple position on this issue is coming from the East who would suffer less than the West ?

I think not. Quite revealing this has been and sadly another indication of where the blame lies for past, present and almost certainly future heartburn for the U pilot group as a whole and soon AA pilots.

Half of the US Airways pilots will retire and never have a chance to "drool" or "take" anything away from AA pilots. Why is so much saber rattling coming from AA pilots?

Most US Airways pilots already know the specific US Airways metal and seat they'll retire on and are either planning retirement or looking at post line flying jobs overseas. Many will retire to the training department and raise the influx of pilots who will be hired to be your copilots.

The majority of US Airways pilots have set their expectations low—they've reached rock bottom and it's solid. Most of these guys react to the merger by telling their younger copilots that they're happy for them.

Wakeup buddy!

Have you completed an initial training program or probation period at American?

If not, than it seems odd that you're talking about fences if you were not employed by American on the date of "Conditional Notice."

I have NO problem with fences..NONE of US at US whant anything other than what WE bring to the table..Your obvious pointed remarks at a previous process that does not include YOU or the AA pilots, shows contempt towards a pilot group that has SACRIFICED over $10 billion in the effort to save their dying Co. How much did YOU give up to SAVE AA?? As stated above, most pilots at US will retire before any benefit is gained from this merger. Those on the 330 will most likely retire off the 330. Ca and F/os alike..
ALL of the AA guys/galls that I run into are polite, enthusiastic, and overall pleased with OUR merger.....You seem to be the exception...Perhaps you are the reason why psychological evals exist during airline interview process..Oh that's right, you wouldn't know....

HALF of the entire U pilot group would be retired in the 3-5 year time frame following SLI with AA ?

Could you post that hard data ?

No sabre rattling on the fence issue, just a statement that it will be a likely result. If it wasn't such a big deal to East pilots as you say, I wouldn't be dodging a continuous slew of incoming missles from them here, yet I am.

What is the reason they've reached "rock bottom" ?

What has impeded their collective ability to negotiate a industry standard contract for the last 5 years and stunt the growth of their airline at the same time ?

Were they uncontrollable outside forces or were they self-inflicted wounds (actually a majority preying on the minority) ?



Yes I have, but that matters little as at least SOME on the East consider anyone who once flew an RJ (or I suppose any airplane smaller than an Airbus/737) to be a "punk". ;)

You have no problem with fences ?

Hey that's cool. The question then is why so much hostility, anger and rage ?

It's O.K., most here know the answer. If one researches your post history, they'll see a common theme and one could place even more concern in your psychological well-being than mine for that very reason. As for airline psych tests, they're a joke. If you get that at all, they're common boilerplate tests that have "gouge" available and easily subverted. Proof of that is abundant in some of the crack-pots flying around nowadays in airline cockpits with no absence of various neurosis, quantifyable personality disorders, excessive paranoia and even psychosis.

Of course, I understand if you wouldn't recognize that reality. ;)

As for your experience with AA pilots on the line, you may have even run into me. I've had plenty of interaction with both East and West pilots in the last year and MOST seem cool, but SOME reveal certain feelings that says a lot about who they are (I could say the same for some AA and even Eagle pilots too). I've heard a lot of questionable reationalizations and comments and to be honest, most of those were from East against West. That being said, that doesn't mean all Easties are that way and I take all pilots and all PEOPLE for that matter as individuals. I don't even classify all regional pilots (present or past) as "punks" either. Anyone who paints groups of people with broad brushes, has a credibility issue from the start and isn't likely to be very objective.

I dont have an issue with ALL Rj pilots. Just YOU!! For obvious reasons..

I did live up to my end of the deal. Show me where I didn't. You and most people that don't really know all they think they do about our situation convenently ignore the fact that the TA required a JCBA between east and west before a SLI could be used. What was offered sucked and was not worth taking if it came with the Nic. Simple. Just like everyone else I've asked, you won't answer my question. Again, what lousy contract would you accept in order to complete the TA?

I don't know if I'd like you in person, but on this board you come across as a richard and it has nothing to do with fences. If fence help preserve positions in CLT, bring them on. I just don't think you can make a blanket statement on them. They need to be there to temporarily protect pilots and how much protection they need depends on the method of SLI.

Fleet basing post merger
 

What bases are most junior for Group 2? And when realistically could a junior guy hold a group 2 AB/737 CA slot? Fences or not....