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Old 05-11-2013 | 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by uaav8r
Hell... if they did that, we'd all move up a thousand numbers.
If they let me run the treadmill test, it'll be TWO thousand!
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Old 05-11-2013 | 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by iahflyr
This is how I feel when I hear people talking about this subject:
Southpark - They Took Our Job! - YouTube
If you're going to reference South Park, at least do it properly
They took errr jerrbs is related to outsourcing whereas the discussion at hand is that old timers won't retire to let a new workforce in.
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Old 05-11-2013 | 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by iahflyr
I'm a fiscal conservative who has voted Democrat the past 2 presidential elections because I can't stand the Tea Party. Above all, I believe in Capitalism and the fact that wealth shouldn't be shared, but given to those who earn it. I would never support a law that was designed to have wealthier people have to retire from their jobs so that poorer people could be entitled to their share of the wealth.
The people at the top of both political parties don't care about the outlying social issues... the parties are a divide and conquer strategy of emotional division.
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Old 05-11-2013 | 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by flybywire44
The people at the top of both political parties don't care about the outlying social issues... the parties are a divide and conquer strategy of emotional division.
Amen! Amen! Can I get an Amen?
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Old 05-11-2013 | 02:27 PM
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Get rid of the age restriction all together. If you can hold a first class medical, then you should be legal to fly. If you don't believe a first class medical is stringent enough, then up the standards.

This is the only career I can think of where there is blatant age discrimination. For the record, I adequately planned for retirement and plan to retire between 55 and 60, but I cannot stand that some of my friends are being forced out.
Lots of FAA, military, many law enforcement, fire fighting and other professions have age restrictions.
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Old 05-11-2013 | 02:42 PM
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We fly 2 pilot aircraft. It's very rare for a pilot to croak on the flight deck, but when it does happen, you have a second pilot who is fully capable of safely landing an airplane. This has happened on a few occasions. Has there ever been a case where a pilot medical issue has caused an accident on a 2 pilot aircraft? So why is this even an issue in the first place.

Originally Posted by Snarge
So then you don't believe in Age 60, 65, 70.... etc...
Nope. I believe in judging a pilot not by his age but by his capability to safely fly an airplane.

In other words, pull up the ladder I got mine....
Not true at all. An age 55 rule would be best for me, because that is when I plan on retiring, and that rule would force a bunch of people above me out. But I don't want that. It's not about doing what's best for me. It's about doing what's right.
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Old 05-11-2013 | 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by kingairip
That is the funniest thing I've ever read on APC, if not the Internet. . That is awesome.
I had to read that twice to make sure I was comprehending it correctly. Maybe it was an attempt at sarcasm...

GW certainly was no spendthrift but the current administration takes the cake for out of control spending.

On topic, as many have alluded to, there are many careers that have age limits. Even my job in the reserves will one day force me to hang up my flight suit.

But, I really don't think I WANT to be working a real job when I'm 66...
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Old 05-11-2013 | 02:47 PM
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In a presidential election, sometimes you have to pick the lesser of two evils, and unfortunately, the Tea Party scares the absolute crap out of me. That and the fact that most Republicans are against gay marriage. Talk about discrimination. Imagine how stupid those congressmen will look in 40 years. For the record, i'm happily married with 2 kids.
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Old 05-11-2013 | 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by iahflyr
In a presidential election, sometimes you have to pick the lesser of two evils, and unfortunately, the Tea Party scares the absolute crap out of me. That and the fact that most Republicans are against gay marriage. Talk about discrimination. Imagine how stupid those congressmen will look in 40 years. For the record, i'm happily married with 2 kids.
Mandatory retirement ages don't exist to discriminate in the way Jim Crow laws did (in reference to those pictures). They exist for the safety of the flying public based on what we know about aging.

Furthermore, if you eliminate mandatory retirement ages from this profession, you're going to have to eliminate the seniority system or.. alter it dramatically.
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Old 05-11-2013 | 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by teddyballgame
Ha!

That got everybody's attention, didn't it?

But before everyone under 55 has an aneurysm, here's what I'm referring to:

I have heard that there are conversations being held about granting relief to the restriction that at least one pilot on an international flight be under age 60. That is, airlines would be able to schedule a captain and a first officer who are both 60 or older on an international flight, which they cannot do now.

Has anybody else heard or read anything recently on this subject?
It will change internationally (ICAO) first then we will follow just as the 65 change.
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