Maybe that's why hardly any military pilots getting calls from USair. No one in my KC-10 unit can seem to get an interview after applying over and over including myself.

 

Which is weird, because the majority of people I know getting calls for interviews have military service on their resume.

US Air is 100% random. You can be a astronaut and I don't think it'd get you a call quicker than a Dash-8 FO.

 

Being an astronaut definitely would NOT get you called faster than a Dash-8 FO. There's a good chance any Dash-8 FO applying to Airways is from one of the wholly-owns. Airways has some sort of preferential interviews in place for the wholly-owns.

Fact - Of the 21 new hires in the 4/29 class, 3 had military experience. The reality is, with flow through agreements at the legacies (AA, US, Delta), the quickest path to a number is from the regionals. (Maybe United doesn't have any flow-through arrangement..I'm not sure.)

 

US Air is definitely picking up military pilots.

 

Maybe I can apply to USAir, and get hired and be senior to myself at American. Thanks Darrah/White. You guys effectively wiped an airline and it's pilots off the map.

 

FF,

If you leave UPS to come here, I will personally see to it that Bill Engvall comes up with a whole new comedy routine of "Here's Yer Sign." Because guess what, anyone hired after 2/14/13 will most likely end up with DOH - both your hire date AND the Bart Simpson signature line. You know, junior to ALL natives. Then you're gonna have to come up with a whole new line of rants!

See my other post on getting laid.

Love,
73

 

Pilots with strictly military experience, or pilots with mixed mil/civ backgrounds?

Based on what I've read here, US Air's competitive requirements make it difficult for those with strictly military experience to get an interview call, especially for those that separated from AD after 10-12 years of military flying (traditional Guard/Reserve with currency), slightly less difficult for recently retired military with currency.

It may be that a recently hired US Air pilot's military experience is purely coincidental to their 121 experience. I am aware of few exceptions, but as where 12 years of strictly military time (fighters = 2500 TT/2000 TPIC, heavies = ?) is more than competitive at some major airlines, I don't think it is at US Air.

Many 2000 TPIC military folks are going to the regionals for various reasons. My opinion is that with the advent of third-party HR process, the K/S/T screening paradigm drastically favors 121 experience over military experience.

I'd love to be shown otherwise.

 

When I go to job fairs with around 5000 TT I feel under qualified. I don't think 2500 TT will cut it right now when they have more than enough applicants. With the PIC u talked about just get on with a regional and build ur flight time and I would imagine u would have a leg up over us civilians with the same flight time.

 

When I talked to the Airways recruiters at WAI, they told me getting your ATP would suffice for the recency of training.
For me it wasn't a problem, I had cross-flowed into the C-130J in 09, so I was fine. But, I asked for some of my buddies. They said Higher Power fulfilled that requirement (ATP/737 type).
That being said, Airways hasn't called me for an interview.

 

For what it's worth, I'd put stock in your assessment. However, I don't think that's the only "glitch" in the 3rd party outsourced system.

A few app windows ago, it was the question about being through a newhire/upgrade course recently. If no, better luck next time. The most recent window, it had the same question. But follow up questions if you HAVEN'T been though one that seemed to be a little more logical. Asking how many training events/courses have you completed, and the dates IIRC. So it would seem that slowwwwwwwly they may broadening the system up. If the trend keeps up, I'd venture to guess that if they ask if you have formal/mil training it would bypass or send one down a different road of questions.

If it's all mil time, and soon to be separated or recently separated and current, IT IS QUALIFIED. Most companies do a "peer group comparison rack and stack". IOW, if it's all mil time, it's being compared to other all mil candidates. For the mil guys that go to the regional, it's usually not a flight time issue. It's usually more about getting current if they haven't flown and broadening the experience on the resume. Been beat to death in the mil section. At BOTH the companies I worked at, a mil pilot that went regional didn't last very long there when there was hiring going on at the higher levels.

For military, it's not really the time that matters as long as the mins are met, whether with or without the sortie conversion. It's being an IP/StandEval/NATOPS, etc that sets them apart from their peers in the hyper competitive environment right now.