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Old 11-16-2013, 06:47 PM
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And what you don't understand, is we got paid more the past 6 years, then if the kirby was in effect with the NIC award.

Now with this new deal, we will make MORE in the next 3-4 yrs then we would have under the kirby over a period of 8 yrs.

Not to mention the QOL issues that were contained in the Kirby.

Not to mention the loss of Min hulls and Min hours (you know that little section we got for you guys that have you flying 25% or more of the flying the East brought with this merger?)

Real simple....even cavemen understand it
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Old 11-16-2013, 06:50 PM
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And what you don't understand, is we got paid more the past 6 years, then if the kirby was in effect with the NIC award.

Now with this new deal, we will make MORE in the next 3-4 yrs then we would have under the kirby over a period of 8 yrs.

Not to mention the QOL issues that were contained in the Kirby.

Not to mention the loss of Min hulls and Min hours (you know that little section we got for you guys that have you flying 25% or more of the flying the East brought with this merger?)

Real simple....even cavemen understand it
So let's see here, making more money before the merger is worse than making less money before the merger. Having 10 days less vacation between 2007-13 is better than having 10 days more vacation between 2007-13. Easthole logic at its best.
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Old 11-17-2013, 04:45 AM
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Not saying it's better, but saying we haven't LOST anything.

As by 2016, I will have made 60k more than I would with the Kirby. And it's just money.

You can't put a price tag on the intrinsic value of having protection on number of Hulls, and block hours.

You know those two items that the east brought to the merger that has saved the West from having to furlough much much much more?


And of course. the number 1 answer to all of it.



No NIC..........Priceless..
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Old 11-17-2013, 05:21 AM
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Not saying it's better, but saying we haven't LOST anything.

As by 2016, I will have made 60k more than I would with the Kirby. And it's just money.

You can't put a price tag on the intrinsic value of having protection on number of Hulls, and block hours.

You know those two items that the east brought to the merger that has saved the West from having to furlough much much much more?


And of course. the number 1 answer to all of it.



No NIC..........Priceless..
Where did you come from and why are you stirring up the pot now?

We've beaten these subjects to death.

Some one is going to lose... East or west... It could really go either way.
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Old 11-17-2013, 05:27 AM
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I showed up when the pot got stirred, not stirring it. I just moved responses and such to this thread instead of junking up the others...


Either way with the merger, both sides will win.

Maybe not the win they were hoping for the past 7 years. but will be a win for both sides in the coming years.
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Old 11-17-2013, 05:42 AM
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Originally Posted by flybywire44 View Post
Where did you come from and why are you stirring up the pot now?

We've beaten these subjects to death.

Some one is going to lose... East or west... It could really go either way.
***!? He did what you asked and brought it here. You came to this thread by choice and you want to complain about his posts?
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Old 11-17-2013, 05:44 AM
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Originally Posted by cactiboss View Post
So let's see here, making more money before the merger is worse than making less money before the merger. Having 10 days less vacation between 2007-13 is better than having 10 days more vacation between 2007-13. Easthole logic at its best.
Westicle blinders. The Kirby had NO RAISE for the 190 for the life of the contract. It gutted scope. PHX probably would have been gutted in the great recession. It was crap. Your reps acknowledged it was crap when it came out. Besides that, the point that you miss is that AOL was lying about how bad it was in court!
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Old 11-17-2013, 06:47 PM
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WD and cacti-you guys need help. I'm not messing with you now, I'm serious. If what we have been through is a "terror", or whatever word was used, then you have had an extremely blessed life or you're nuts.

A terror would be to see your child battle a disease and die in your arms. A terror would be to see genocide against your race/religion. A terror would be watching your entire village washed away in a typhoon and being force to drink out of a ditch. A terror would be forced as a child to live off of a trash dump.

This whole SLI fight is a pimple on the butt of the world. If you can't handle having another pilot that works for the same company on your jumpseat simply because he came from the other side of the fence, with no provocation, then you SHOULD NOT be intrusted with an 80 million dollar aircraft and the lives in it.

GET A LIFE.

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Old 11-17-2013, 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by R57 relay View Post
WD and cacti-you guys need help. I'm not messing with you now, I'm serious. If what we have been through is a "terror", or whatever word was used, then you have had an extremely blessed life or you're nuts.

A terror would be to see your child battle a disease and die in your arms. A terror would be to see genocide against your race/religion. A terror would be watching your entire village washed away in a typhoon and being force to drink out of a ditch. A terror would be forced as a child to live off of a trash dump.

This whole SLI fight is a pimple on the butt of the world. If you can't handle having another pilot that works for the same company on your jumpseat simply because he came from the other side of the fence, with no provocation, then you SHOULD NOT be intrusted with an 80 million dollar aircraft and the lives in it.

GET A LIFE.
Blah blah blah blah, go jump off a bridge and take as many east holes as you can with you.
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Old 11-17-2013, 07:08 PM
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Ditto....

And they tried to make excuses for the actions.

And a rebuttal of.........I almost denied a j/s but then found out he was a third lister....so I let him on.

Really j/s wars....whatever. They are trying to politically get third listers and AA on their side..........whatever.....

Let those look at the facts and decide......
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