American interviews and class dates
08-27-2014, 05:42 AM
#2131
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Originally Posted by Skubajet
I hear you and agree with your points as well as many others do as well. APA has approached mngmt on DAL pay parity starting Jan 2015 instead of 2016 now AND this will get starting pay to $68/hour. I am optimistic it will pass. But yes, starting pay HAS to increase from the current $40 or we will lose a lot of the most qualified potential candidates to our competition. Be patient, change is coming. Pair up DALDAL pay, and some better soft work rules , and our incredible attrition and we with be among (if not the) the most desired carrier to work at. We are just a little behind right now (due to our late merger compared to the others) but the gap is closing.
08-27-2014, 07:00 AM
#2132
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Position: Right Seat
Posts: 81
Originally Posted by Sliceback
Indoc. 5
Fleet. 26-31
Intl. 5
IOE 4-7
Breaks between each assignment from
a couple of days to a couple of weeks. Once you start fleet training the breaks are 2-7 ish days.
Fleet. 26-31
Intl. 5
IOE 4-7
Breaks between each assignment from
a couple of days to a couple of weeks. Once you start fleet training the breaks are 2-7 ish days.
08-27-2014, 09:32 AM
#2133
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Originally Posted by MatchPoint
I agree and I too am hopeful but I also understand Parker doesn't have to do anything when it comes to the already agreed upon MOU pay rates. Also I highly DOUBT we get profit sharing, Parker does not want to give that up. I do think he'll agree to the rates but even at Delta +1% we'll end up being far being Delta in total compensation.
08-27-2014, 09:36 AM
#2134
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Originally Posted by inline five
It's frustrating that the union is focusing so much on pay and less on regaining scope and soft pay/work rules. Go read some of those DAL threads, they are able to credit 150-230 hours a month. Even with pay parity they will still blow us out of the water. I'd much rather have more airplanes on property and better QOL/soft pay/work rules than getting another $10 or $20/hr.
08-27-2014, 09:37 AM
#2135
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Originally Posted by inline five
It's frustrating that the union is focusing so much on pay and less on regaining scope and soft pay/work rules. Go read some of those DAL threads, they are able to credit 150-230 hours a month. Even with pay parity they will still blow us out of the water. I'd much rather have more airplanes on property and better QOL/soft pay/work rules than getting another $10 or $20/hr.
08-27-2014, 10:54 AM
#2137
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08-27-2014, 11:52 AM
#2138
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Originally Posted by Skubajet
I hear you and agree with your points as well as many others do as well. APA has approached mngmt on DAL pay parity starting Jan 2015 instead of 2016 now AND this will get starting pay to $68/hour. I am optimistic it will pass. But yes, starting pay HAS to increase from the current $40 or we will lose a lot of the most qualified potential candidates to our competition. Be patient, change is coming. Pair up DALDAL pay, and some better soft work rules , and our incredible attrition and we with be among (if not the) the most desired carrier to work at. We are just a little behind right now (due to our late merger compared to the others) but the gap is closing.
Let's hope for new hires it's a Merry Christmas this year.
08-27-2014, 12:32 PM
#2139
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Position: Airbus button pusher
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I highly doubt doug will give anything early out of the kindness in his heart or due to good profits. Heck half the people say a jcba has to be within the MOU total costs and half the people say a jcba isn't tied to MOU costs. Nobody knows whats going on here :/
08-27-2014, 01:19 PM
#2140
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Originally Posted by Saabs
I highly doubt doug will give anything early out of the kindness in his heart or due to good profits. Heck half the people say a jcba has to be within the MOU total costs and half the people say a jcba isn't tied to MOU costs. Nobody knows whats going on here :/
When it hits their performance goals and flights are cx'd because people are leaving then they will do something about it - maybe.
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