new AA j/s and commuting policy
#61
Close. $50/year to use nonrev program.
We do pay international taxes and fees, but not a ticket price. That cuts down on the excise tax. It works out to about $50 per ocean crossing (no bag fees), and $0 for a domestic leg. Not sure why there are no fees at all on domestic leg, but I just did a transcon RT with a family of 4, with no fees. If there is room in Business Elite or First, we can sit there provided the kids are older than 6.
Seniority determines placement on the standby list (can't imagine anything else, without riots).
Retirees after active.
Parents use their active child's seniority date.
JS goes to whoever booked first, but going to work gets to book 1 day earlier than coming from work, which gets to book a day earlier than neither.
We do pay international taxes and fees, but not a ticket price. That cuts down on the excise tax. It works out to about $50 per ocean crossing (no bag fees), and $0 for a domestic leg. Not sure why there are no fees at all on domestic leg, but I just did a transcon RT with a family of 4, with no fees. If there is room in Business Elite or First, we can sit there provided the kids are older than 6.
Seniority determines placement on the standby list (can't imagine anything else, without riots).
Retirees after active.
Parents use their active child's seniority date.
JS goes to whoever booked first, but going to work gets to book 1 day earlier than coming from work, which gets to book a day earlier than neither.
At the moment, we get charged for international travel:
International departure tax (everyone pays this and varies by airport)
And here are the things that a D2 (D1/D3 etc) pays that an offline jumpseater or someone issued a jumpseat boarding pass does NOT pay:
D2 NRSA charge (up to $50.00 for coach or $100 for biz or $175 for FC)
IT Tax ($17.50)
Customs Fee ($5.50)
Inspection Fee ($7.00)
APHIS Fee ($5.00)
US TAX/Fee ($35.00-$50.00)
and for flights to ORD (not sure if offline jumpseaters pay this or not)
International Arrival Fee ($15.00)
In some cases a jumpseater from another airline pays $150 LESS and possibly sitting in business class than an employee who sits D2 in coach!
#62
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Ahhh, ok. Got my info from an FO I had flown with once upon a time and his wife is a pilot with Delta. I guess he was a bit mistaken on the taxes.
At the moment, we get charged for international travel:
International departure tax (everyone pays this and varies by airport)
And here are the things that a D2 (D1/D3 etc) pays that an offline jumpseater or someone issued a jumpseat boarding pass does NOT pay:
D2 NRSA charge (up to $50.00 for coach or $100 for biz or $175 for FC)
IT Tax ($17.50)
Customs Fee ($5.50)
Inspection Fee ($7.00)
APHIS Fee ($5.00)
US TAX/Fee ($35.00-$50.00)
and for flights to ORD (not sure if offline jumpseaters pay this or not)
International Arrival Fee ($15.00)
In some cases a jumpseater from another airline pays $150 LESS and possibly sitting in business class than an employee who sits D2 in coach!
At the moment, we get charged for international travel:
International departure tax (everyone pays this and varies by airport)
And here are the things that a D2 (D1/D3 etc) pays that an offline jumpseater or someone issued a jumpseat boarding pass does NOT pay:
D2 NRSA charge (up to $50.00 for coach or $100 for biz or $175 for FC)
IT Tax ($17.50)
Customs Fee ($5.50)
Inspection Fee ($7.00)
APHIS Fee ($5.00)
US TAX/Fee ($35.00-$50.00)
and for flights to ORD (not sure if offline jumpseaters pay this or not)
International Arrival Fee ($15.00)
In some cases a jumpseater from another airline pays $150 LESS and possibly sitting in business class than an employee who sits D2 in coach!
I said $50/crossing, but it's about $50 per transatlantic RT.
The real difference seems to be the "D2" fee. You probably have to pay excise tax on that, which adds insult to injury.
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US Airways has always been (justifiably) proud of their nonrev and jumpseat policies. I strongly suspect, given the 70/30 split in favor of US executives to the merged carrier, that the US nonrev program will be the one on which the merged airline's system is based.
APA seems favorably inclined toward the US jumpseat system, which we all like at US, so the momentum there is to keep it.
As for Parker not wanting to throw money at employees ... true, to a point. However, Parker also realizes that he can earn some points at little to no cost to him in areas like this. Case in point: until two years ago, employees who bought ED20s (discounted positive-space tickets) had to pay checked baggage fees like any other customer. At a CLT Town Hall (I was in the room at the time), a pilot asked him why he had to pay to check bags on his own airline after paying for a ticket, when he could non-rev and check bags for free.
I fully expected Parker to give him the typical answer about how it costs money to handle his bags, etc. To my surprise, Parker thought about it for a moment, and said to the guy, "You're right. That's not fair, and I'm going to get it changed or tell you why I can't." It took a few months to reprogram Shares appropriately, but now, US Airways employees and their families who buy ED20 tickets can check bags at no charge. It was a small thing, but it was also something Parker could easily have blown off. Like any employee, I don't agree with everything our management team does, but that day Parker & Co. earned some "street cred" with me.
APA seems favorably inclined toward the US jumpseat system, which we all like at US, so the momentum there is to keep it.
As for Parker not wanting to throw money at employees ... true, to a point. However, Parker also realizes that he can earn some points at little to no cost to him in areas like this. Case in point: until two years ago, employees who bought ED20s (discounted positive-space tickets) had to pay checked baggage fees like any other customer. At a CLT Town Hall (I was in the room at the time), a pilot asked him why he had to pay to check bags on his own airline after paying for a ticket, when he could non-rev and check bags for free.
I fully expected Parker to give him the typical answer about how it costs money to handle his bags, etc. To my surprise, Parker thought about it for a moment, and said to the guy, "You're right. That's not fair, and I'm going to get it changed or tell you why I can't." It took a few months to reprogram Shares appropriately, but now, US Airways employees and their families who buy ED20 tickets can check bags at no charge. It was a small thing, but it was also something Parker could easily have blown off. Like any employee, I don't agree with everything our management team does, but that day Parker & Co. earned some "street cred" with me.
Maybe you just caught him after a few stiff drinks. Could be a good negotiating strategy going forward
#64
FWIW, my wife was going to go to MAN with me in December, but didn't get on. It would've cost $102, which was the departure taxes out of England. Going over was nada. As a plus, those are payroll deducted, so at least we got that going for us.
#65
as a humble regional guy who access to a few different bennies, i almost religiously use Delta. $50 for the year covers all your passriders. Parents pay per leg, wife and kids are free each leg. You can check in online, watch the standby list on the app.
US Air was the next best, please just keep the Wings system guys. Used to be free, now we pay $75 for me and $50 for every rider thereafter per year.
United - We just switched to a Delta style system, but $50 per rider. Registered companion is $200 and pays per leg.
We do AA flying and currently have the worst bennies. Have to list like a ZED fare, can only list wife and kid(s). Listing as a commuter is free, but anything beyond hat is difficult and our priority is the same as any offline employee who does no flying for AA at all. (No where near industry standard)
US Air was the next best, please just keep the Wings system guys. Used to be free, now we pay $75 for me and $50 for every rider thereafter per year.
United - We just switched to a Delta style system, but $50 per rider. Registered companion is $200 and pays per leg.
We do AA flying and currently have the worst bennies. Have to list like a ZED fare, can only list wife and kid(s). Listing as a commuter is free, but anything beyond hat is difficult and our priority is the same as any offline employee who does no flying for AA at all. (No where near industry standard)
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The preferred method is to list online, through myIDtravel.com. Your Jumpseat coordinator should have your carrier's log-in. If you're with US (can't remember), just click the link on Wings under TravelUS. As far as I know, there has never been a charge to jumpseat on AA.
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