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Old 01-26-2014, 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Wiskey Driver View Post
What ever you have is lights years better than what we have.

WD at AWA

Are you speaking for the West?

East short call is OK if you have a house in base. Work less, get paid more. The new international RAP keeps them from screwing us (on duty 24 hours) like they used to.

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Old 01-26-2014, 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by DCA A321 FO View Post
Are you speaking for the West?

East short call is great if you have a house in base. Work less, get paid more. The new international RAP keeps them from screwing us (on duty 24 hours) like they used to.
11 days off a month is not so super.
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Old 01-26-2014, 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by kingairip View Post
11 days off a month is not so super.

Very very true.

I think it goes to 12 and 13 days off at some time in the distant future, depending on the # of days in the month.
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Old 01-26-2014, 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Justdoinmyjob View Post
Umm, I work for Delta. As in Delta's contract is the suckiest. My bad for not being more clear.


Originally Posted by 7576FO View Post
Nope ours is "suckier" at AA

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Ok, there is a dispute about who has the suckiest contract.... Its a tough call and looks like a tie..., so for a tie breaker we will reference your Avitar Pics... "Turd Polisher" wins!
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Old 01-26-2014, 04:45 PM
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Pilots should be allowed the option to accept or deny using long layover as an off day, but there also should be some monetary incentive for doing so.

I hope we end up with a predictable reserve system.

I believe it will be a sweat shop of a system intent on bringing everyone up to, but not above guarantee.

We need to be sure that APA jointly manage pairing construction and PBS bid solutions with the company.
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Old 01-26-2014, 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by 7576FO View Post
You don't want the AA reserve system. It is broken. It is a leveling system that never works. Too many flaws.
Traditionally i've liked reserve in that we can pass trips until everyone in our group has flown, then you can pick your trip if multiple trips are available.
Now that we have Int'l RAP's reserve availability periods, it's difficult at best to get a trip you want.

Here's where i am, our contracts have always sucked when compared to DAL or UAL. We give way too much productivity and loopholes for AA to use against us.

We have people that strategically each month throw 1 PVD in the middle of a week of reserve. Then they cannot be used.

Is it time? DAL contract. Xerox the whole thing.

What do the USAir guys think?

I've read through the DAL contract, to me it's hands down superior to AA's.

Thanks.
Our reps know. Our scheduling committee has been working with yours and would like to make changes. Thing is, there is only so much room in the JCBA and what will be the priorities?

Hopefully there are some low cost to us things the company wants and we can exchange low/no cost to the reserve improvements.

We have a good scheduling committee here. One of the best committees at USAPA IMHO and they know the issues.
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