Equipment in bases....
01-30-2014, 04:32 PM
#81
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Originally Posted by Diesel1030
18-22 days? My understanding is RSV is radically different now after 117 changes. Somewhere you have to get your rest in. I'm curious to see how it works out with the merger.
01-30-2014, 04:38 PM
#82
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Originally Posted by ForeverFO
I understnad, and thanks. We know a person's 4-part bid status (base, equipment, etc) can cause QOL to vary wildly from place to place.
I have a friend who has been a DFW 777 CA for about 10 years, all of it on reserve. He's my buddy, but sometimes I want to clock him when he says "I've consistently flown 300 hours a year this last decade." That translates into about 1.5 three-day trips a month. 4 or 5 days of work. For 72 hours pay.
And then there was me as a S-80 RSV FO, pushing monthly max every month by the 20th.
Right now, I'm in the top 25% of DFW 777 reserves. The flying is seasonal, and with Spring and Summer coming up, I'll fly more, but I'm still averaging 2 trips a month. I can't complain at all... it's a sweet gig.
Can you explain how this happens? Is that 18 days WITHIN the month, or like from the 20th to the 8th of the next month?
I need to look at the MIA bid sheets. The worst DFW 777 reserve bid line might have a block of 8 or 9 days ON, but never more.
I have a friend who has been a DFW 777 CA for about 10 years, all of it on reserve. He's my buddy, but sometimes I want to clock him when he says "I've consistently flown 300 hours a year this last decade." That translates into about 1.5 three-day trips a month. 4 or 5 days of work. For 72 hours pay.
And then there was me as a S-80 RSV FO, pushing monthly max every month by the 20th.
Right now, I'm in the top 25% of DFW 777 reserves. The flying is seasonal, and with Spring and Summer coming up, I'll fly more, but I'm still averaging 2 trips a month. I can't complain at all... it's a sweet gig.
Can you explain how this happens? Is that 18 days WITHIN the month, or like from the 20th to the 8th of the next month?
I need to look at the MIA bid sheets. The worst DFW 777 reserve bid line might have a block of 8 or 9 days ON, but never more.
01-30-2014, 05:50 PM
#83
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Originally Posted by The Drizzle
Yeah, I could swear there needs to be a 30 hour period free from duty in domicile in 168 hours. No? Or is that domestic?
01-30-2014, 06:22 PM
#84
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Originally Posted by ForeverFO
I understnad, and thanks. We know a person's 4-part bid status (base, equipment, etc) can cause QOL to vary wildly from place to place.
I have a friend who has been a DFW 777 CA for about 10 years, all of it on reserve. He's my buddy, but sometimes I want to clock him when he says "I've consistently flown 300 hours a year this last decade." That translates into about 1.5 three-day trips a month. 4 or 5 days of work. For 72 hours pay.
And then there was me as a S-80 RSV FO, pushing monthly max every month by the 20th.
Right now, I'm in the top 25% of DFW 777 reserves. The flying is seasonal, and with Spring and Summer coming up, I'll fly more, but I'm still averaging 2 trips a month. I can't complain at all... it's a sweet gig.
Can you explain how this happens? Is that 18 days WITHIN the month, or like from the 20th to the 8th of the next month?
I need to look at the MIA bid sheets. The worst DFW 777 reserve bid line might have a block of 8 or 9 days ON, but never more.
I have a friend who has been a DFW 777 CA for about 10 years, all of it on reserve. He's my buddy, but sometimes I want to clock him when he says "I've consistently flown 300 hours a year this last decade." That translates into about 1.5 three-day trips a month. 4 or 5 days of work. For 72 hours pay.
And then there was me as a S-80 RSV FO, pushing monthly max every month by the 20th.
Right now, I'm in the top 25% of DFW 777 reserves. The flying is seasonal, and with Spring and Summer coming up, I'll fly more, but I'm still averaging 2 trips a month. I can't complain at all... it's a sweet gig.
Can you explain how this happens? Is that 18 days WITHIN the month, or like from the 20th to the 8th of the next month?
I need to look at the MIA bid sheets. The worst DFW 777 reserve bid line might have a block of 8 or 9 days ON, but never more.
01-30-2014, 06:40 PM
#85
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Originally Posted by The Drizzle
Yeah, I could swear there needs to be a 30 hour period free from duty in domicile in 168 hours. No? Or is that domestic?
I did this to myself, via trip trade, because I didn't pay attention to detail like I should have, but next month I work two four day trips back to back. One has a 33 hour layover (in Vegas, not Huntsville thank god!) So it's legal. On the bright side, they are pretty easy trips. So no worries.
01-30-2014, 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Irishish
This is absolutely crazy. Hopefully, we end up with a reserve system like the current US system, you will like it a lot. Max of 6 days on in a row. Never extended into a day off. Short calls hardly ever work (~30hrs/month), long calls a little more. One of the best parts is you can watch the reserve situation in real time and get a pretty good idea if you are going to be called or not.
01-30-2014, 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by nimslow
At AA at least, the 30 hours need not be in base. We can have a 30 hour layover, and it counts as our 30/168.
I did this to myself, via trip trade, because I didn't pay attention to detail like I should have, but next month I work two four day trips back to back. One has a 33 hour layover (in Vegas, not Huntsville thank god!) So it's legal. On the bright side, they are pretty easy trips. So no worries.
I did this to myself, via trip trade, because I didn't pay attention to detail like I should have, but next month I work two four day trips back to back. One has a 33 hour layover (in Vegas, not Huntsville thank god!) So it's legal. On the bright side, they are pretty easy trips. So no worries.
My girlfriend would flip if this happened to me on reserve.
Out of base 30hr layovers as rest periods should only count at the sole discretion of the pilot on a case-by-case basis. Maybe even give a few credit hours as well!
01-31-2014, 03:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Irishish
This is absolutely crazy. Hopefully, we end up with a reserve system like the current US system, you will like it a lot. Max of 6 days on in a row. Never extended into a day off. Short calls hardly ever work (~30hrs/month), long calls a little more. One of the best parts is you can watch the reserve situation in real time and get a pretty good idea if you are going to be called or not.
01-31-2014, 04:47 AM
#89
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All, a few characteristics to look forward to:
-Don't expect to fly less on reserve with Parker's team.
-If a reserve flies less than guarantee, they consider that overpaying/underutilizing.
-Parker's team in staffing/manning hates it when pilots swap trips around. They will limit schedule flexibility as much as possible.
-They will limit open time as much as possible.
Most importantly:
-Staffing/manning/scheduling has more power than the Chief Pilot's Office. Even though scheduling is not in our Chain of Command, they actually are, and their position lies above the CPO, and under VpFltOps.
If you have a problem with scheduling, the answer from the CPO will be: scheduling said no, and I can't do anything about it.
Several times over the years I needed help with scheduling and the CPO's office's standard response is: they said 'no' if you have to call in sick.
The AWA culture developed over the decades to use sick time as PTO/personal days to cover life's unexpected events.
I hope scheduling flexibility improves with this merger, but I don't think it will.
-Don't expect to fly less on reserve with Parker's team.
-If a reserve flies less than guarantee, they consider that overpaying/underutilizing.
-Parker's team in staffing/manning hates it when pilots swap trips around. They will limit schedule flexibility as much as possible.
-They will limit open time as much as possible.
Most importantly:
-Staffing/manning/scheduling has more power than the Chief Pilot's Office. Even though scheduling is not in our Chain of Command, they actually are, and their position lies above the CPO, and under VpFltOps.
If you have a problem with scheduling, the answer from the CPO will be: scheduling said no, and I can't do anything about it.
Several times over the years I needed help with scheduling and the CPO's office's standard response is: they said 'no' if you have to call in sick.
The AWA culture developed over the decades to use sick time as PTO/personal days to cover life's unexpected events.
I hope scheduling flexibility improves with this merger, but I don't think it will.
01-31-2014, 04:59 AM
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Originally Posted by meyers9163
Hmmm 1700 RAP a buddy and I both on probation got an all nighter assigned. I know many who have.... Maybe non probation pilots can avoid such but to say it never happens is absolutely false.....
So, say future finishes processing all the trips it had open at 1300 at 1500. There is one long call pilot left for the next day, and he is in the one day bucket. A guy then calls in sick for an all nighter for the next day at 1530. The scheduler should give it to the long call and take move his day off(unless it is an I day). Some do it this way, but often they move to the long call guys instead of splitting the trip or going into off days.
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