Current State of USAPA
#31
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Joined APC: Jan 2013
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In seriousness, to be fair to the Westies, the MOU does call for "lists in effect" to be merged and IMHO it would be reasonable to have a separate committee to represent each list. The so called "3rd listers" don't actually have a separate list, they are all on either the East or West list.
If USAPA was smart, they would have embraced this concept and called for separate USAPA committees to represent the east and west group in the protocol. Probably APA and the company would have accepted it, then negotations reach impass, then arbitration. That's where it's going anyway, might as well retain some semblance of control.
The danger in allowing APA to control the committees is they may find a way to stack the east and west merger committees with APA ringers.
#32
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Usapa is being smart, they know they will get killed in an arbitration if west is allowed to show a neutral what the east has done.
#33
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Joined APC: Nov 2011
Position: A320 Capt
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What about when USAPA shows the panel your DFR claim, you know, the one you lost? I don't see why they would worry about the west having their own merger committee. Separate committee, separate seniority list, separate fleet.
#34
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Go read what Silver said so you don't embarrass yourself further, management and apa are taking her words seriously. Btw, if the west having its own reps isn't a big deal why is usapa fighting it with everything they got?
#35
I've heard that myself in the courtroom. Sucks.
#37
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Joined APC: Aug 2006
Position: Right of the Left Seat
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cactiboss
Go read what Silver said so you don't embarrass yourself further, management and apa are taking her words seriously. Btw, if the west having its own reps isn't a big deal why is usapa fighting it with everything they got?
Silver went paragraphs and paragraphs saying "Boy, I feel for you guys, I really do", then finished it by saying none of that matters and here's the law.
I've heard that myself in the courtroom. Sucks.
Originally Posted by cactiboss
Go read what Silver said so you don't embarrass yourself further, management and apa are taking her words seriously. Btw, if the west having its own reps isn't a big deal why is usapa fighting it with everything they got?
Silver went paragraphs and paragraphs saying "Boy, I feel for you guys, I really do", then finished it by saying none of that matters and here's the law.
I've heard that myself in the courtroom. Sucks.
#38
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Joined APC: Apr 2011
Posts: 1,967
Embarrassing is voting 98% to ratify an agreement that nullifies your own position in order to claim ripeness so you can spend more money in trial, only to have the judge say she has nothing to compare.
Embarrassing is going to a meet and greet in PHX for AOL, and wearing either your Harry Potter wizard costume or your Spartan soldier costume.
#40
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Joined APC: Apr 2011
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America West pilots talking about salary. That is funny.
http://web.mit.edu/airlinedata/www/D...20Copilots.pdf
http://web.mit.edu/airlinedata/www/D...20Copilots.pdf
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