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Old 02-20-2014, 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by cactusmike View Post
...And though we have been the ones stagnating over the past 8 years ...
Well I submit to you that without the East over these years you would be out of business.

Stagnation or reduction? You tell me my friend.
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Old 02-20-2014, 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by DCA A321 FO View Post
Well I submit to you that without the East over these years you would be out of business.

Stagnation or reduction? You tell me my friend.
No, we would have been fine with our lower costs absent the merger. We had competed quite well with SWA for all those years. The only time we really lost money was the 747 program and that's what put us into ch11. We made money during the CH11 process and after until 9/11. Then we made money again.

Also, without the US Airways merger we would have been available to merge with anyone else, which would have been vastly preferable.
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Old 02-20-2014, 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by cactusmike View Post
No, we would have been fine with our lower costs absent the merger. We had competed quite well with SWA for all those years. The only time we really lost money was the 747 program and that's what put us into ch11. We made money during the CH11 process and after until 9/11. Then we made money again.

Also, without the US Airways merger we would have been available to merge with anyone else, which would have been vastly preferable.
Doesn't your flying today consist of 25% East flying, and if the East went out of business, and AA DAL UAL SWA... picked up all that flying becase AWE didn't have the cash or planes, your flying today would be 25% less, assuming you were still in business.

Just talking ****, but you act like the East has hurt you so much, and you are entitled to come fly A330 and 767 to Europe, thats Bull****.
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Old 02-21-2014, 07:49 AM
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Originally Posted by cactusmike View Post
Then we made money again.

Also, without the US Airways merger we would have been available to merge with anyone else, which would have been vastly preferable.
Really? How much money and how often? You had an annual loss the year before the merger.

Nobody else wanted you! The US/AW merger was a home run for the companies. It could have been for us too if not for the Nic.
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Old 02-22-2014, 08:24 AM
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Originally Posted by cactusmike View Post
We made money during the CH11 process and after until 9/11. Then we made money again.
Just ignore the $400+ million ATSB government loan to stay afloat in 2002

US pulled down $900 million

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Old 02-22-2014, 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Dolphinflyer View Post
Just ignore the $400+ million ATSB government loan to stay afloat in 2002

US pulled down $900 million

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Hmm. Not sure of your point there.

They were loans and paid in full with the money raised for the US/AW. At a orodit if over $100to million to the federal government.
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