Nice little snippet there, but it doesn't tell the whole story though. I've read USAPA's complaint and I stand behind my beliefs of the post you highlighted. All can read that complaint and understand the issues anyway they please and form their own opinions. One should note in paragraph 3 that regarding their complaint, USAPA seeks relief including, but not limited to the above injunction, so that sure looks to me like their toll pass to the further mayhem options I was taking about.

AFAIC, they orchestrated this the minute they ran the protocol phase dry (deliberately) on 2/18/14 and then they began the process of INCORRECTLY applying McCaskill-Bond IMMEDIATELY and when the CCO of AAG proposed arbitration (ostensibly to resolve this SPECIFIC dispute and NOT "failed" SLI bargaining, which had yet to occur), Hummel contacted the NMB the very next day to get a list of arbitrators to begin actual M-B arbitration process of actual SLI. Remember, not a single position on seniority integration has been exchanged. USAPA goes on to highlight its complaint noting required completion of full-blown SLI arbitration in 90 days as per the MOU (you know, the one they are apparently SELECTIVELY interpreting and cherry-picking the provisions that they think work in their favor to remain relevant). This means that as per USAPA's complaint, they essentially want to complete full-blown M-B arbitration of the SLI (which hasn't failed, because it hasn't occurred) before any reasonable expectation of JCBA completion.

Aside from being clearly a deliberately rushed action, it's an inversion of the principle order of the MOU process and thus a nullification of its provisions. AAG and APA filed a grievance shortly thereafter to allege USAPA is doing just that. In essence, USAPA's complaint and SLI pursuit is really a strawman argument all built on an erroneous and self-serving foundation based on subjective and selective interpretation.

Again, the real question the judge should first ask USAPA is, since the MOU was clear about their dissolution at some pre SLI completion point in the MOU process, WHY didn't they voice their concerns BEFORE signing the agreement ?

The answer is..........well, some of us not swirling in the doldrums of hysteria or wallowing in sub-terrainian denial see the OBVIOUS answer. :cool:

But like I said, that's how USAPA rolls.................

When did Judge Silver's ruling come out, before or after the MOU vote?

Don't worry, I'm relaxed. Just hope the APA sees it like you do and not an opportunity. It's my 4th merger and I've seen a lot of bad behavior and rationalization from all sides for their actions.

I have jumped on APA, AWA, and USAir Jumpseats, and have had pilots of all above on the jump seat. The only ones that care about the SLI are the West pilots... and a couple of them have been obsessed about lecturing me, even while on the jumpseat. I just smile with satisfaction and ignore them. :)

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So you're saying most AA pilots (or even none) care about seniority integration ?

Ummm, OK. If you say so..............:cool:

You can't read.


I said that no pilots, in jumpseat conversations, cared about the SLI, except for some West pilots that were obsessed with preaching their opinions.

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You could pass yourself off as a West pilot, even without your $675 tie.

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I can read, you're just not very proficient at stating a coherent point.

Of course they aren't going to get into that too deeply riding a jumpseat (if they're smart ;)). So if you're not insinuating all AA pilots (or AA pilots in general) don't "care" about this SLI, then given the reality of my first point in this post, you're really saying nothing of consequence at all. :rolleyes:


From the beedy eyes of a maroon Usapian tortoise, I have no doubt I am believed to be a boogyman from the West. Every maroon Usapian tortoise knows Western boogymen are hiding everywhere. Isn't that taught in USAPA's basic indoc course ?

You still can't read. What high school did you go to?

Of course pilots don't normally "care" about SLI when riding the jumpseat... that was the point. The West pilots are the one's obsessed enough to deny me the jump seat, or have lectured me about the Nic, the evils of USAPA, and their lawyers. Everyone else is smart enough to "have no care about it."

The west pilots just get louder when I smile like a cat that ate the mouse. :)

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My high school was on Earth. Perhaps that's the problem ?

There were English, Spanish and French classes, but no Usapian classes. Go figure. :cool: Come to think of, my astronomy class may have touched on it when reviewing galaxies far, far away. As hard as I've tried, admittedly I just can't learn your language. Your logic, I understand completely. It involves those who want to be cats like you who enjoy eating mice like those in the West and soon AA. ;)

Jumpseat denials ?

Who knew you were rambling about that. Never mind...........


.....and wouldn't a victory for USAPA's ploy fatten up this not-so-innocent little cats tummy once again ?

That is, of course, unless it is pyrrhic. :o

Wine and DOH have one thing in common.... Tic, Toc, Tic, Toc... :)