Go Back  Airline Pilot Central Forums > Airline Pilot Forums > Major > American
3 way seniority integration-Fire Away >

3 way seniority integration-Fire Away

Search

Notices

3 way seniority integration-Fire Away

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 10-13-2014 | 07:14 PM
  #61  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 1,967
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by JetMonkey
2 airlines means 2 airlines.
One will find meaningless any and all implicit assumptions that are inconsistent with the Protocol Agreement.
Reply
Old 10-14-2014 | 09:10 PM
  #62  
JetMonkey's Avatar
Cactus Aviator
 
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 250
Likes: 0
From: Learning to fly with my left hand.
Default

Originally Posted by PurpleTurtle
One will find meaningless any and all implicit assumptions that are inconsistent with the Protocol Agreement.
Arbitrators can do as they wish. I know turtles are slow.. but come on, man!
Reply
Old 10-14-2014 | 10:32 PM
  #63  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 1,967
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by JetMonkey
Arbitrators can do as they wish. I know turtles are slow.. but come on, man!
That is premised upon an implicit assumption, and false.
Reply
Old 10-15-2014 | 05:59 AM
  #64  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 203
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by JetMonkey
Arbitrators can do as they wish. I know turtles are slow.. but come on, man!
I would re-read the Protocol Agreement and see if you still agree with what you said...
Reply
Old 10-15-2014 | 08:51 AM
  #65  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Nov 2013
Posts: 1,168
Likes: 0
From: Gets weekends off
Default

Originally Posted by Al Czervik
Interesting but...
No points for AC orders unless they are purely growth. New replacement aircraft mean zero.
In the UAL/CAL arbitration the arbitrators completely ignored new airplane orders in their status and category list, and just went with what was on the property the day of the merger on each side, separated into 3 groups, Widebody (747/777), Midbody (757,767), Narrowbody (A320,737).

Delta/NW has something similar, but they had a 100% status and category merger and United/CAL used S&C and longevity.

Good luck to everyone over there.
Reply
Old 10-28-2014 | 06:04 PM
  #66  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 448
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by PurpleTurtle
I'm very comfortable the arbitration panel will get every aspect of the new SLI dead-bang on target, because in the eyes of the law it will be fair, equitable, and implemented... Correct and complete. Anyone who attempts to argue otherwise will waste emotions and money.
Which of course begs the question yet again...if ultimately you and your ilk determine that the arbitration panel didn't get it "dead-bang on target" (or at least to your liking), what then? USAPA redux?
Reply
Old 10-28-2014 | 06:05 PM
  #67  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 448
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by PurpleTurtle
That is premised upon an implicit assumption, and false.
ashphincter says what?
Reply
Old 10-28-2014 | 07:51 PM
  #68  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 1,967
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by Seaslap8
Which of course begs the question yet again...if ultimately you and your ilk determine that the arbitration panel didn't get it "dead-bang on target" (or at least to your liking), what then? USAPA redux?
Presenting a hypothetical and then squealing about unanswered questions... that's rich with irony.

"If" Wake's order stands, what will the east do?

"If" the 9th rules against USAPA what will the East do?

"If" Silver rules in the DJ against USAPA what will the East do?

"If" Silver finds a DFR what will USAPA do?

If, if, if, if... always assuming bad things will happen to the "ilk" and then wanting to know what the "ilk" will do.

Once the SLI comes out I will buy a bargain basement discounted clearance Liberty Tie.
Reply
Old 10-29-2014 | 09:19 PM
  #69  
Flies With The Hat On
 
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 1,339
Likes: 0
From: Right of the Left Seat
Default

Originally Posted by PurpleTurtle
Presenting a hypothetical and then squealing about unanswered questions... that's rich with irony.

"If" Wake's order stands, what will the east do?

"If" the 9th rules against USAPA what will the East do?

"If" Silver rules in the DJ against USAPA what will the East do?

"If" Silver finds a DFR what will USAPA do?

If, if, if, if... always assuming bad things will happen to the "ilk" and then wanting to know what the "ilk" will do.

Once the SLI comes out I will buy a bargain basement discounted clearance Liberty Tie.
To what extent is the West class liable for attorneys fees if they do not prevail in a DFR case?
Reply
Old 10-29-2014 | 10:13 PM
  #70  
80ktsClamp's Avatar
Da Hudge
 
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 17,473
Likes: 0
From: Poodle Whisperer
Default

Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
cactiboss
American
3154
06-25-2014 10:54 AM
Wiskey Driver
American
338
01-30-2014 12:39 PM
Doctor
American
250
01-29-2014 12:47 PM
Nevets
Union Talk
42
03-01-2009 08:41 PM
mike734
Major
15
09-17-2007 12:03 PM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



Your Privacy Choices