Hard to keep your word about not responding to me, isn't it?

You have been a chief rock thrower.

How's the holiday going over on the LAA side? Keeping Doug up this week?

 

Keep in mind before AA came along, the majority of the rock throwers were choosing to happily operate on a bankruptcy contract so they could maintain separate operations with the West. That puts them on pretty thin ice to make accusations in my opinion.

 

Agreed. It's of no surprise to me that one in particular would do little BUT this. I've stated in the past I would not directly interact with that person due to his penchant for personal attack (i.e. quote his posts or reference him specifically by name), but sometimes it's necessary to indirectly reference his statements and position to provide balance.

Again, we are where we are and it serves no purpose in the JCBA conflict to drag up pointless conflict that's counter-productive to our present contractual interests (apparently an immutable trait of a die-hard Usapian). I guess some just can't do much else though and while predicable, it's still sad. It's ironic that considering his present pay bump was due to APA and AA pilots, he's apparently not satisfied with riding just those coat tails, but demands APA and AA pilots provide another free ride around the block on more attractive coat tails at their long-term expense.

Sad, but not surprising.

 

And certain west screamed for 7 years "A deal is a deal!!", but now think we should have an ILC, after voting 97% for the MOU. Integrity in action.

 

While you call people usapians. Man, I hope you are not representative of AA pilots.

Riding coat tails? Hey man, don't forget you guys told us "We got this..." You own it sport.

Stupid, but not surprising.

 

Digesting the various comments, statements and positions on the various forums, it appears the majority of APA is in sync with the majority of pilots (including pre-merger AA, West and much of the East). It appears that sentiment is that the present demands by Parker for sooner and slightly larger pay rate changes in exchange for concessions that mostly pay for them are unacceptable vs. the MOU provisions that were "gotten" by APA.

Thus, barring acceptable movement from Parker, we'll likely be in an arbitration situation within 2 weeks. Considering such a possibility, pilot unity is critical. It's understood that a certain percentage of senior East hardcore anti-APA USAPA pilots (AKA "Usapians") aren't on-board with the group (because they never were), but the remaining majority must not allow either management or these self-serving, ax-grinding pilots assisting management (whether they realize or accept it or not) to divide us.

JCBA unity among those outside this subversive group is essential.

 

Please don't pretend to tell us you know the majorities position based on posts by less than 5%, and maybe less than 2%, of the membership.

 

Based on the posts on the various forums, that does appear to be the majority. That's not my primary point. My primary point is UNITY. Some have axes to grind and grind away and that serves nobody.

 

It's just the majority of the posters. That may, or may not, have anything to do with what the majority believes.

If this is for unity -

"It's understood that a certain percentage of senior East hardcore anti-APA USAPA pilots (AKA "Usapians") aren't on-board with the group (because they never were),"

I'd recommend hiring a new speech writer.

 

So I should validate those who preach division instead of identifying it for what it is ?

The majority here at least who are for "taking the money" appear to be in that sub-group.......perhaps, it's just they are the most vocal ?
They're also the ones who do mostly nothing except attack APA and blame AA pilots for their choices. Most in the East aren't in this group (even USAPA reps), but then again they aren't on this forum and advocate that (at least based on their blasts and statements).

If I wanted to pretend or promote that, I suppose I could, but that would would be just as bogus as me ****ing all over a flow-thru claiming he wants LOS pay when he didn't simply because I failed to read and understand his points.