Originally Posted by Wiskey Driver

Why do you even waste your time responding to his foolishness? This is guy complains about usapa yet they are ONLY reason he is sitting in a captain seat out of seniority order and EVERYONE knows it. He then complains about the west because he knows that once that arbitration result is honored he spends the rest of his career on res. Nothing he says is even worth the time of day. Hypocrite to end and this why many here refuse to even respond to him.

WD at AWA

Originally Posted by flyinawa

I'd call you a lot of things but pragmatic isn't one of them. These two sentences are about as clear as mud. Are you implying some sort of sarcasm? Is it that the East agreed to binding arbitration and then thought they could get something better? And if that's the case, what should the West have tried? Based on what you SEEM to be implying, you don't have to honor a deal if you think you can get something better. Is that it? Why would any group agree to ANY arrangement with pre AWA/US merger East pilots? (I'm not finger pointing at that third list guys, they've been held hostage by both pilot groups AND management throughout this entire debacle)



Listening to USAPA loving East pilots complain about the West is much like listening to a guy explain how his wife is to blame for the beatings he gives her. You're blaming the West for the injunction? USAPA started an illegal job action without even attempting to get the West pilot's support. Remember the "Good Union Pilot" lanyards the East made to show solidarity against management? Not one West pilot was ever given one of those. Some guys asked and were told they couldn't have one. Some "Union".

Also, make sure you tell your new APA friends about the baseless legal filings USAPA made against the Cactus 19 and..what was it, "100 unnamed defendants"..in the event anyone else spoke out against them. Some of our guys paid big bucks out of pocket to defend against that garbage. And before you start making the "Yeah, but" excuses about how big bad West pilots were hurting USAPA's feelings, remember that case got thrown out TWICE, and the second time with prejudice. It was nothing more than an intimidation tactic undertaken by a representational union against it's members. Keep that in mind next time you complain about APA not pandering to you.

Originally Posted by Route66

Why, what happened to you union hard core "stick it to them" rants? You are both suddenly sounding like you give up.

Come on.....tell the APA to stick it to the company, you anti-union slackers!

Originally Posted by PurpleTurtle

Poser. Did you join APA yet?

Originally Posted by eaglefly

His anti-union agenda supersedes all other rational thought. There is one and ONLY one string in his back (to which he pulls himself) and that's its robotic (and psychotic) message.

Oh.......and we are all Communists too.

Originally Posted by Route66

You guys are so wrapped around the axle you need an enema. Looks like you and yours will get your look at the contract proposal sometime around mid-december.

My message is exactly what you two keep doing for my point. Your "rational" thought sure brings reason like excrement does with flies.

You communists (I know, the truth hurts) keep trying to sand bag the company.

Originally Posted by eaglefly

For the sake of your family (if you have one), get some help.

Seriously. It's painful to see someone gripped by mental illness. I keep thinking of the pictures of that orange-haired kid who shot up the theatre in Colorado or the bug-eyed one who attacked the school in Sandy Hook and how if only someone intervened. My guess is you own an arsenal of firearms (a Communist behind every tree), which is equally disturbing.

Your psychiatric situation is beyond EAP, but I think they can assist you in finding someone who specializes in your degree of paranoia and delusion. It WILL likely involve some powerful meds though. The most important thing is you HAVE to keep taking them once you feel better. I can only hope someone or something intervenes to stop what seems destined to conclude what must presently be such a tragic existence.

Godspeed.

Originally Posted by Route66

You guys are so wrapped around the axle you need an enema. Looks like you and yours will get your look at the contract proposal sometime around mid-december.

My message is exactly what you two keep doing for my point. Your "rational" thought sure brings reason like excrement does with flies.

You communists (I know, the truth hurts) keep trying to sand bag the company.

Originally Posted by PurpleTurtle

Its an easy lie... Just tell us you joined APA.

Originally Posted by flyinawa

I'd call you a lot of things but pragmatic isn't one of them. These two sentences are about as clear as mud. Are you implying some sort of sarcasm? Is it that the East agreed to binding arbitration and then thought they could get something better? And if that's the case, what should the West have tried? Based on what you SEEM to be implying, you don't have to honor a deal if you think you can get something better. Is that it? Why would any group agree to ANY arrangement with pre AWA/US merger East pilots? (I'm not finger pointing at that third list guys, they've been held hostage by both pilot groups AND management throughout this entire debacle)



Listening to USAPA loving East pilots complain about the West is much like listening to a guy explain how his wife is to blame for the beatings he gives her. You're blaming the West for the injunction? USAPA started an illegal job action without even attempting to get the West pilot's support. Remember the "Good Union Pilot" lanyards the East made to show solidarity against management? Not one West pilot was ever given one of those. Some guys asked and were told they couldn't have one. Some "Union".

Also, make sure you tell your new APA friends about the baseless legal filings USAPA made against the Cactus 19 and..what was it, "100 unnamed defendants"..in the event anyone else spoke out against them. Some of our guys paid big bucks out of pocket to defend against that garbage. And before you start making the "Yeah, but" excuses about how big bad West pilots were hurting USAPA's feelings, remember that case got thrown out TWICE, and the second time with prejudice. It was nothing more than an intimidation tactic undertaken by a representational union against it's members. Keep that in mind next time you complain about APA not pandering to you.