APA Reps Speak Out About Company's JCBA Offer
01-07-2015, 05:45 PM
#31
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Originally Posted by ghilis101
With industry standard proposals, and the company's tremendous financial health and positive economic outlook, the APA offer was still less than Deltas 2012 contract, not to mention it's spread out over 2,000 more pilots (AAs 15000, versus DAL having 13000 pilots). It was not unreasonable. This final APA counterproposal is still more than $700 million below Delta 2012 contract.
01-07-2015, 05:45 PM
#32
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Originally Posted by eaglefly
Glass orchestrated the same stunt at Envoy. In one instance they abruptly severed negotiations over a single word in an ALPA email. It was simply strategy. They are making us play their game and that needs to stop. If we don't stop it this time, were done for in 2020 as we'll be bankrupt of harvestable value with the exception of scope.
If Parker goes not need or want that, he'll just kick the can for 5 years which is common.
If Parker goes not need or want that, he'll just kick the can for 5 years which is common.
01-07-2015, 06:17 PM
#34
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Originally Posted by Hueypilot
inline was not a PSA pilot.
I assume 'inline' was an intern someplace, and hasn't actually had formative time at an airline, even at PSA. But he/she clearly has a calculator and knows how to use it. A formidable skill indeed.
Oh... and 'inline five', the company most certainly does not win either way. The status-quo, which will be the product of a 'No' vote, is a significant defeat for their wishlist.
If you calculate otherwise, then you are using the wrong calculator.
01-07-2015, 06:21 PM
#35
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Originally Posted by Just trust them
I was refering to Texasspilot.
I assume 'inline' was an intern someplace, and hasn't actually had formative time at an airline, even at PSA. But he/she clearly has a calculator and knows how to use it. A formidable skill indeed.
I assume 'inline' was an intern someplace, and hasn't actually had formative time at an airline, even at PSA. But he/she clearly has a calculator and knows how to use it. A formidable skill indeed.
01-07-2015, 09:19 PM
#37
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Originally Posted by ghilis101
do you really believe the APA proposal to accept and immediately ratify the current proposal if it included the AWA long rig was a hard line stance? What the BOD did there was an incredibly fair compromise that would have been a win for the company and a decent draw for you. Instead, the company took the hardline stance, is circumventing the BOD and going to direct to you. Its in your hands. I for one think that they are throwing out one last shot at you, and if you vote no youll get the long rig, similar to min calendar day. They've already made a series of mistakes (incomplete language coupled with an unreasonable ultimatum) that will hurt them if this goes to arbitration, even if the arbitrator is pro company.
01-07-2015, 09:25 PM
#38
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I will not bow down to demands that are not at least industry standard. As pilots, we are the only employees at an airline that are NOT replaceable. They will come back to renegotiate after we vote no. Let's stand together and bring back dignity, honor and respect to our profession! Vote NO!!!
01-07-2015, 10:02 PM
#39
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Extrapolating the first 6 months of AAG earnings calls, 2014 annual report will likely show revenue of at least $45 Billion, and profit of $2.6 to 3 Billon. The APA proposal with long rig is still under 5 percent of total revenue and still ensures record profits for the company that can exceed $4 Billion in 2015. Even with worst case valuation of min calendar day at $85 million (believed to be over inflated), that's only a 2 percent share of that $4 Billion profit, for a pilot group that accounts for 13 percent of AAG's work force. You deserve it.
01-07-2015, 10:44 PM
#40
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Originally Posted by Hueypilot
Inline five flew for an airline prior to joining us here at LUS. But go ahead and keep on making assumptions for the express purpose of putting others down.
Im sure the work rules here are much better than the "other airline", that is why we are here. However, you don't sacrifice those better work rules to chase a shiny nickel. Especially in the best financial times EVER for the airlines.
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