Originally Posted by ghilis101 (Post 1798402)

With industry standard proposals, and the company's tremendous financial health and positive economic outlook, the APA offer was still less than Deltas 2012 contract, not to mention it's spread out over 2,000 more pilots (AAs 15000, versus DAL having 13000 pilots). It was not unreasonable. This final APA counterproposal is still more than $700 million below Delta 2012 contract.

Originally Posted by eaglefly (Post 1798407)

Glass orchestrated the same stunt at Envoy. In one instance they abruptly severed negotiations over a single word in an ALPA email. It was simply strategy. They are making us play their game and that needs to stop. If we don't stop it this time, were done for in 2020 as we'll be bankrupt of harvestable value with the exception of scope.

If Parker goes not need or want that, he'll just kick the can for 5 years which is common.

Originally Posted by inline five (Post 1798418)

The company wins either way. Voting no they just win more.

Originally Posted by Hueypilot (Post 1798307)

inline was not a PSA pilot.

Originally Posted by Just trust them (Post 1798446)

I was refering to Texasspilot.

I assume 'inline' was an intern someplace, and hasn't actually had formative time at an airline, even at PSA. But he/she clearly has a calculator and knows how to use it. A formidable skill indeed.

Originally Posted by ghilis101 (Post 1798385)

do you really believe the APA proposal to accept and immediately ratify the current proposal if it included the AWA long rig was a hard line stance? What the BOD did there was an incredibly fair compromise that would have been a win for the company and a decent draw for you. Instead, the company took the hardline stance, is circumventing the BOD and going to direct to you. Its in your hands. I for one think that they are throwing out one last shot at you, and if you vote no youll get the long rig, similar to min calendar day. They've already made a series of mistakes (incomplete language coupled with an unreasonable ultimatum) that will hurt them if this goes to arbitration, even if the arbitrator is pro company.

Originally Posted by Hueypilot (Post 1798450)

Inline five flew for an airline prior to joining us here at LUS. But go ahead and keep on making assumptions for the express purpose of putting others down.