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Old 01-09-2015 | 08:09 PM
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I don't really care how you take it.

You can go on expecting the sky to fall. I'll be enjoying my life.

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Old 01-09-2015 | 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Hueypilot
I don't really care how you take it.

You can go on expecting the sky to fall. I'll be enjoying my life.
I'm enjoying mine. I'm especially looking forward to 2020 listening to you stomp your feet with demands and expectations. I hope you're smiling then.

I know I will be.
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Old 01-09-2015 | 08:48 PM
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So you think that Kirby's 7 asks constitute leverage? The valuations are miniscule...Just like us--he will have no problem going into arbitration and leaving us on the MTA until OPENING negotiations for the next contract on 1 Jan 2017--Let me correct that for you, you condescending jerk...We have pretty much EXACTLY the same leverage right now as we will have then--HBT and Dom/Int are the only things he is asking for that have much value at all, and I am fairly sure they have plans to work around those 2 issues...As for the plan on the table he is offering to buy his 7 asks for x amount--you can see the numbers in various threads on here and C&R. Kirby's asks don't constitute that much of a loss or gain for either side..If you want to vote no because those things are worth more to you personally either now or in the future than what is being offered; that is a great reason to vote no--If you are voting no to retain these issues for some future leverage--again, I restate my original point--our leverage left the barn when the MTA was agreed to without immediate parity with Delta in pay and work rules......
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Old 01-09-2015 | 09:01 PM
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Originally Posted by AirbusFO
So you think that Kirby's 7 asks constitute leverage? The valuations are miniscule...Just like us--he will have no problem going into arbitration and leaving us on the MTA until OPENING negotiations for the next contract on 1 Jan 2017--Let me correct that for you, you condescending jerk...We have pretty much EXACTLY the same leverage right now as we will have then--HBT and Dom/Int are the only things he is asking for that have much value at all, and I am fairly sure they have plans to work around those 2 issues...As for the plan on the table he is offering to buy his 7 asks for x amount--you can see the numbers in various threads on here and C&R. Kirby's asks don't constitute that much of a loss or gain for either side..If you want to vote no because those things are worth more to you personally either now or in the future than what is being offered; that is a great reason to vote no--If you are voting no to retain these issues for some future leverage--again, I restate my original point--our leverage left the barn when the MTA was agreed to without immediate parity with Delta in pay and work rules......
I stopped reading this rambling diatribe when I got to "jerk" (but lost interest even before that ), so whatever your point was, it was lost. Best of luck to you too in 2020........you're going to need it.

You obviously have no clue what capitulation at thus juncture really means, so once more into the breech, dear friends........
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Old 01-09-2015 | 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted by texaspilot76
What's taking so long to get this vote out? I got some loans to pay off and a vacation to finance.

= financial loser
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Old 01-09-2015 | 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by eaglefly
I'm enjoying mine. I'm especially looking forward to 2020 listening to you stomp your feet with demands and expectations. I hope you're smiling then.

I know I will be.
I can guarantee you that I will be smiling. I tend to be that way regardless. I was smiling when I was working for $25k just like I was smiling during my 1 year deployment to Baghdad. Life is good unless you choose to make it bad on your own.
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Old 01-10-2015 | 06:06 AM
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Originally Posted by eaglefly
I stopped reading this rambling diatribe when I got to "jerk" (but lost interest even before that ), so whatever your point was, it was lost. Best of luck to you too in 2020........you're going to need it.

You obviously have no clue what capitulation at thus juncture really means, so once more into the breech, dear friends........
It's too bad you ignored his post because it has a lot of good info in it.
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Old 01-10-2015 | 07:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Hueypilot
I can guarantee you that I will be smiling. I tend to be that way regardless. I was smiling when I was working for $25k just like I was smiling during my 1 year deployment to Baghdad. Life is good unless you choose to make it bad on your own.
Hey that's great. It would seem then there will be no need to say "F-NO !" in 2020 as you'll be happy. My only suggestion at this point is to keep your expectations very low to avoid disappointment. We'll all be acting for ourselves then and it truly will be survival of the fittest.........and the majority.

Hail to the greedy geezers and our god, Quick Ca$h !!!
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Old 01-10-2015 | 07:54 AM
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Originally Posted by inline five
It's too bad you ignored his post because it has a lot of good info in it.
Only to those myopically banging into walls who can't see beyond a quick payoff.

Don't worry. I'll come around next time though. Bank on it.
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Old 01-10-2015 | 08:16 AM
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I have been out of the business for a very many years, but my experience as a attorney gives me some insight. The Yes and No fight is what the company really wants. The money stuff is immaterial at this time to them. They are making a LOT of money right now. What the company wants more than anything else is IN-effective labor groups. You guys are fighting like a pack of dogs over scraps, not seeing the guys standing over you watching with glee. NO money is worth a strong cohesive UNIFIED work group. You are supposed to be the best and brightest. Open your eyes, step back and THINK. Look at what you are doing. Like puppets on a string with ParkerGlass and Company working you hard. Cut the strings, **** and let ONLY your leadership know what you are thinking. Keep the company off balance. Letting the company know what you are thinking gives them strategy (and the ammo to shoot you down). Just an observation from a old guy long past his prime from the days of round engines. My first Captain (Skinner) was taught to fly in San Diego by Pilot Certificate #975 in 1936. His instructor was one of the Wright Brothers.
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